Getting AA's with 1.5 mod, fair?

Reon-kun · Trick Member Joined: 14 Apr 2004

There happens to be nothing wrong with 1.5x--but it seems he doesn't like it. What about 2x? Is there justification in AA a song when it goes at 380 BPM <like Break Down 190*2> What is your view on the solo mod? I see nothing wrong with using that... its a visual enhancer--as flat and dark. My little brother often uses little... but that isn't helping his progress at all. Boost? That is one of my favourites--it speeds up the arrows--but the timing remains different.

The 1x option has the arrows in the arrow thing longer than any of the other mods. 2x have the arrows fly past the perfect zone <supposing that the perfect zone doesn't increase when speed mods are used>--therefore actually reducing the chance of getting perfects.

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radicalfaith360 · Trick Member Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: Dover, NH

The only time it's not fair is with songs such as bag or Orion.78 Amero. Any other song is perfectly fair.

MrJ2006 · Trick Member Joined: 16 Jul 2002 Location: Seattle, WA

Just like Aku said, if Konami thought that speed mods were fair why would they include them? Also someone said that 1x is the way to play because thats how it all started out and I totally disagree with that. As long as an option is available then it's the WAY to play it.
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MrJ2006 · Trick Member Joined: 16 Jul 2002 Location: Seattle, WA

Just like Aku said, if Konami thought that speed mods were fair why would they include them? Also someone said that 1x is the way to play because thats how it all started out and I totally disagree with that. As long as an option is available then it's the WAY to play it.
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b-aki · Trick Member Joined: 30 Nov 2002

i only recommend x1 because some tournaments dont allow any mods. but who cares if you use speed mods? it may affect your PA in x1, but its your money, you make your choice, like ice cream!

the reason why to me x1.5 is good is to recognize the step charts more clearer and to get used to it. i was able to FC leading cyber w/o speed mods because of speed mods.

wsbsteven · Trick Member Joined: 17 Dec 2003 Location: Illinois

SuperFast · Trick Member Joined: 08 Mar 2004 Location: Indiana

I've AAed a lot of heavy songs with x1 and x1.5. Sure it's easier to play on 1.5X because of the space, but it's still an AA if at the score screen says so. I don't think it's as impressive, but still it's an AA, No matter how you flip it toss it or turn it, it's still an AA.
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Ian2K3 · Trick Member Joined: 25 Oct 2003 Location: Berlin MA

it doesnt really matter what you do as long as you can do the steps/ have the stamina to do it you can do as you want and. People should be able to compete at what they do better at it makes tournaments more fair and besides that, tournaments usually are won by rob and he pwns every one by alot of perfects so it would give someone who isnt as good more self esteem to continue playing ddr (i almoist quit after seeing some of my scores compared to his)
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invincible1 · Trick Member Joined: 17 Sep 2003 Location: Long Island, NY

i still say a person who plays on 1x and gets like 5 greats is most likely better then a person who plays on 1.5x and AAAs. Yeah I know everyones gonna say thats stupid because OMFGRZ he got a AAA but 5 greats on 1x is hella harder then AAA 1.5x on most songs. I think thats the point this guy was trying to make. Just that if you play on 1x and get 10 greats and another guy plays on 1.5x and gets 10 greats or around there that the 1x guy is better and/or his score is more impressive. I personally just hate seeing pictures of AAAs with that damn little number in the corner but an AAA will always be an AAA.

ninjafetus · Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 8:30 am Post subject:

-Chef- · Trick Member Joined: 25 Jan 2002 Location: Manalapan, NJ

i hate this thread
alot
i have a crap load of AAAs
go check my aaron in japan scoresheet..did i speed mod
OF COURSE
do i care if someone says i suck cause i used 2x or 1x?
NO

if speed mods are cheating..then i want to see one person who doesn't speed mod on IIDX..seriously..
NO ONE plays at High Speed Nothing unless its a random noobie.
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|-|ysteria · Trick Member Joined: 04 Feb 2004

[quote="Sammarco7"]Ga, no one agrees with me[/b][/quote]

Oh no... someone doesn't agree on your opinions

boo hoo

let's cry about it

sure 1.5x is easier to read but the arrows go faster. So which would you rather read.. slow close arrows, or fast scrolling and a little farther apart .

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NW330 · Posted: Thu Apr 15, 2004 9:04 am Post subject:

Yet another speed mod thread? Oh well I'll voice my opinion.

I think using speed mods differ depending on the song you pick. Perfect examples would be like Orion.78 AMeuro and bag. On 1x those songs require the player to be able to read arrows that are close together and by putting 1.5x or 2x on would make reading the song much easier.

But that doesn't mean the steps are any easier. I've FCed Leading Cyber on 2x...once and it was a fluke cause I was flailing most of that hard part. Sure I could see what to step to but stepping itself was still tricky, if that makes any sense.

As for tournaments I think speed mods would be fair if both players had the option to use them or agree to use them. Say Player A picks the song and Player B gets to choose if mods are allowed. Say Player A picks bag cause on 3x he can AA it with 25 Greats. Well say Player B chooses that mods won't be used. Now Player A is stuck on 1x and won't be able to perform as well cause he's so used to playing on 3x.

So basically I say learn to play with speed mods and without speed mods so you're prepared for any situation. If you can use mods great, if you can't than you're still ready. So I hope this all made sense to everyone.

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DarkDDR · Trick Member Joined: 09 Apr 2004

AA is AA. Period. So Deep 1x is going to be just as tough as So Deep 2x.. so what if you like reading arrows faster or slower. I personally do equally well no matter what speed I play at, but I don't have problems with other players picking mods. It isn't cheating... Konami wouldn't have put them in the game if it was cheating. Is someone AAA'd Maxx Unlimited Double Mirror Stealth would they be cheating?