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0. PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2004 6:18 pm    Post subject: Ems Usb2 Problem Reply with quote

I've had my ems usb2 psx to usb adapter for quite a while now and have this problem. The thing will just stop working after a couple of songs although the power light is still on and my pad gets power. I constantly have to unplug it and plug it back in. IT'S SO ANNOYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! frust.gif frust.gif frust.gif frust.gif frust.gif frust.gif frust.gif frust.gif frust.gif frust.gif frust.gif frust.gif


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1. PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

its probably windows fault, so you mite want to find some tech boards and ask about how you could keep windows from forgettting you devises, or mabey you need to re-instal the drivers.
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2. PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have tried re-installing the drivers numerous times yet still no help frown.gif
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3. PostPosted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive had a similar problem using a USB/PC control box with a redoctane metal mat. I use SM and try to play songs, it just totally forgets about dance mode and goes back to analog mode within a 30 second - 5 minute intrival. Its totally annoying if im about to pass a new song and I lose because my controller switches modes, thus voiding all control settings I had set up. Great..... E2.gif
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4. PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least it works for you period. I bought one a while ago while they were still making crappy ones and it won't even handle one dance pad. I use it for my emulators all the time because I was too lazy to return it.
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5. PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, I baught a smart joy usb/ps2 adapter first, then it didnt work, thats when I got the USB/PC control box instead of the adapter. Now my pad just wont stay in dance mode. Its downright stupid even attempting to pass songs, when you have to engage dance mode every 30 seconds..
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6. PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For people having problems:

What version of Windows are you using?

Are your USB ports USB2?

What kind of dance pads are you using?

What other USB devices are you using?

Lets try to get to the bottom of this problem!

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7. PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

-windows xp (not sure what version)
-step mania alpha 15
-redoctane metal dance mat
-usb/pc control box from redoctanes site
-wireless network card and mouse in other usb slots
-usb 2.0 in the front of my comp, normal USB in the back

It doesnt work right with either usb type. The only problem I have is that the pad will not stay in dance mode... Any help would be spectacularly awesome... E2.gif
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8. PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Help someone...please help....
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9. PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What makes sense to ME is that Dance mode would be inactivated if the adapter lost power/didn't get enough power to stay 'on'. Thus when it came back 'on' it would be in its' original state.

Thus, finding away to provide more juice to it might solve the issue.

Do you have access to a powered USB hub that might be able to give the adapter a bit more 'oomph'? The Dance pads draw a lot of current, or at least I had understand that they did.

Anyone else have these issues who will post their configuration? Or can they confirm that the pads draw a lot of power?

(Has RedOctane support been able to help you at all?)

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10. PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What makes sense to ME is that Dance mode would be inactivated if the adapter lost power/didn't get enough power to stay 'on'. Thus when it came back 'on' it would be in its' original state.


Thats what I was thinking also...It just seems to leave its mode, and go to its original settings.

I have talked to redoctane, they sware they havent had this problem, they've said to do all the stuff that I have done, but they are freaking morons and wont email me back now because I told them I had tried it all and it wasnt effective at all. What the heck... E2.gif
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11. PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe if your house is like mine and all the devices are plugged into infinetly chained together surge protectors, you can give it its very own power socket. This may let it have some more juice if its not competing with eight other pieces of equipment on the strip.
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12. PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How exactly would I hotwire a metal mat so that it had a USB cord, and a power cable. Theres nothing but the USB control box that I have with it...It varies in how it turns on and off, so it must be either a voltage problem, or a power problem.
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13. PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

joeshmo39 just doesn't know what he's talking about. It plugs into USB, not an outlet.

Oh, and when people say voltage, they probably mean how much power something is drawing (voltage * current) because voltage is the same for any PS controller device. If it draws too much power the adapter will not be able to work.

Note that Redoctane only guarantees that it will work with official 1st party controllers, not dance pads.
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14. PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 2:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hooded_Paladin you are correct about voltage (I had a student teacher during the electricity chapter of physics and therefore didn't learn anything).

I have ordered an EMS2 USB & 2 Wiresless RF converts that I am going to try to use with my Cobalt flux pads.

If I can get it to work consistently with low latency I think it'll be fantastic.

If we can get to the bottom of these issues however, everyone will be better off.

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15. PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must have been wrong in buying a control box for a metal mat...that was made by a company that only makes mats...Its made for the metal pad that I baught, but it wont work. It doesnt convert anything, its just a straight control box made by redoctane, for their redoctane metal mat. This is why I dont see it not working....Maybe its just SM and the fact that its not made for it yet, or something....Has anyone used a redoctane metal mat with the USB control box (not adapter) and had it work in SM?

Hmm....It does sorta work, until it loses its signal though, It very well may still be the pad, or the control box.... E2.gif
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16. PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All I know is...I spent hundreds of dollars buying something that doesnt work right...Its either a power problem or SM being dumb...I havent decided which...
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17. PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have taken the USB devices completely out of my computer, and have found that the pad now works for a song or so, and quits. It was most definately a power problem...because it works a little better now. Does anyone know of any ways to "boost" usb slots...Its just not getting enough juice from my computer to be able to run itself..That much I know. Its good to know that everything is working right though, its just my stupid USB plugs that dont give enough power to my pad... E2.gif
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18. PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

powered USB hub. It's been said.
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19. PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

akm3 wrote:
(I had a student teacher during the electricity chapter of physics and therefore didn't learn anything).

We are going through that right now. Physics is damn boring.
"Woah it's REALLY complicated when we combine series and parallel" <-not a real quote

But I suppose this is not the time or place.
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