Bar Raper

amart565 · Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 2:06 pm Post subject:

LOL The way I see it, personally, is if the best players in the WORLD (much better than all these elitst bar haters) use it (I've seen video's of JSB use it too, for those who will counter with JSB) then who are YOU or ME to say that using the bar is "cheating"? I use the bar if I get tired, it also helps my PA lots, if you don't like it, tough. When it comes down to it, if I stomped on the arrows more accurately than you, then I win.

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SaeNoDa · Trick Member Joined: 04 Mar 2002

You say it's a terrible argument as if you had an argument to use to counter it? All you did was say I had a bad argument, proposed something that's entirely different, likening it to something that's NOTHING like my original statement, then said I was saying a smart buttocks remark.

#1. It was not a smart buttocks remark or even an argument, I was stating a fact. If I use the bar in a tournament and win and you don't, and lose, then I win REGARDLESS. The bar is there for a reason. If it helps you, why wouldn't you use it to win? Some people play worse with the bar.

#2. Quad Damage, Invincibility and Hyper Speed in UT2k3 is a horrible analogy to using the bar in DDR. First off, the bar isn't a "super power" - it's a skill. You have to learn to use it, just like you have to learn to use speed modifiers.

JSB once used the comparison to a gas pedal in a car. It's there. Hey, if I was racing you and won because I used the gas pedal, I was being competitive because it was a tool that was there that helped me to beat you. If you didn't use it, you obviously didn't want to win very much because it's there at your disposal and it could've helped you beat me.

Once again, this is not a debate about the bar being good vs. bad. This is a matter of: Do I want to win? Will using the bar help me win? If it does, then you'd be dumb not to use it simply because of peer pressure.
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Frozen V (for Extreme) · Trick Member Joined: 27 Mar 2004 Location: STL, Missouri

Some of the people who said bar raping is for protection...that is correct also the only songs i will bar rape on is PS PSMO PSM LoM those are the only songs..I dont have as much stamina as a 16 year because i am only 14.

PxDnAkumA · Trick Member Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Paducah KY

this topic ..... it never dies.
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Antipathy · Trick Member Joined: 23 Mar 2004 Location: Kansas

I have a question for the bar haters, is using the bar and speeding up the song the same thing? YES! its just to help you pass the song, and your still doing the same dance steps as the joe shmoe next to you, there for its not cheating, or wussing out.

Liquid Zero · Trick Member Joined: 11 Apr 2003

Don't bar rape!!! It's the unwritten 11th commandment! (Seriously, all it does is stop you from doing your best effort.)

-Thou shalt not bar rape.

Fulle · Basic Member Joined: 03 Apr 2004 Location: Here

Who cares if people hold onto the bar.. i just hate it when people stomp really hard on the pad and break the machine.

Frozen V (for Extreme) · Trick Member Joined: 27 Mar 2004 Location: STL, Missouri

yea that gets me too lol

Challenge Chicken · Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2004 9:07 pm Post subject:

Fulle · Basic Member Joined: 03 Apr 2004 Location: Here

they usually have divisions

Jeffreyw · Trick Member Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Location: Spokane, WA

Question: does using 1 hand count as bar raping??

Imo, bar rapings only bad if you do it on 5 foot or lower.. as for me i try stuff like max300 w/bar and w/out bar and it dosent make much differance... with bar feels more comfy tho

me= love bar raping... also makes you look alot better then some guy flying his arms everywhere when not using it

Sidewinder · Trick Member Joined: 24 Sep 2003

If I feel like I don't have the stamina to finish a song, I'll shamelessly bar rape it. I usually don't rape any full songs except for (attempted) 10's, but if I feel myself running out of energy 10 seconds in, I'll lean back. I've also known myself to rape on the end of LoM or Maxx Standard, the last run of DXY!, or the middle of Stoic. It's a great way to learn the footwork with increase flexibility and movement speed.

And if anyone ever tells you it's easy to bar-rape, that's BS. Rape a full song then tell me your arms aren't killing you.
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Frozen V (for Extreme) · Trick Member Joined: 27 Mar 2004 Location: STL, Missouri

PxDnAkumA · Trick Member Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Paducah KY

try double hand raping the entire song of ps. Those end runs are hard as hell to double hand rape.
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figgy20000 · Trick Member Joined: 16 Feb 2004

I use the bar when I'm low on stamina or attemping 10 footers that are going to slaughter my stamina, I don't look down upon people who use it regularly. It is the people (and there are far too many of them) who think that using the bar and not using the bar are the same thing. The bar CLEARLY makes the game much easier, hence why people use it to improve their PA and stop their stamina drain. It IS AN ADVANTAGE. Anyone who doesn't acknowledge that should be slapped in the face and the bar disappear midgame so they fall on their back.

Jeffreyw · Trick Member Joined: 21 Oct 2003 Location: Spokane, WA

for me its a big balance problem... alot of the time i just fall back because im too used to doing it at home that it just creates a problem... ive passed so deep at home with no bar so many times that the pad barely works anymore and theres no bar for me to hold on... i say if your a bar raper make some big acclompishment at home with no bar and stick it in there face.. i think if your at the arcade and you want to bar rape do it.. its your game not theres they diden't pay for it neather are they holdin a gun to your head telling you to let go of the bar... if they give you a bad time just beat there shins in with the bar and thel shut up