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20. PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only bar rape 10's and hard 9's.
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21. PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 5:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never going to use the bar......never will riiight.gif thumb.gif
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22. PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use the bar, but only on hard songs like Max 300 or Cartoon Heroes. I don't call it "bar raping" 'cause it sounds like it's a bad thing that you use it. Why not just call it "using the bar"?
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23. PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 7:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think i do it too much beacuse of a busted knee when i was 16
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24. PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your offbalance, the bar is rly good. LIke, when i freestyle, sometimes i loose it, and i gotta grab the bar.
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25. PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 9:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as no argueing/flaming starts I'll let this thread live.
If another mod wants to lock this anyways, g'head.
Check other "bar rape" topics for Konami's reason for the bar if that question comes up.
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26. PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i used to frown on Bar-raping. Now i know its somewhat nesessary for pies and catas. I played Paranoia Rebirth my first try bar-raping and i passed it with a B. I doubt i could've doen it without bar. Now i frown upon players who NEED 1.5x or 2x in order to play catas and get AA's or SDG's
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29. PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doreguard wrote:
If your offbalance, the bar is rly good. LIke, when i freestyle, sometimes i loose it, and i gotta grab the bar.

Yeah your right the bar can be used for good tings liek freestyling the only bad thing about doing that is i was freestyling and i jumped over and back and my adrenaline was up lol and i went to far and jumped right into the machine and it wasn't pretty lol
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30. PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't rape the bar too much. Then again, I'm only on Standard, so I guess I wouldn't really need it yet. I try to do everything by foot. Makes you faster, and better and less dependent on the bar.
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31. PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dj 8-ball wrote:
As long as no argueing/flaming starts I'll let this thread live.
If another mod wants to lock this anyways, g'head.
Check other "bar rape" topics for Konami's reason for the bar if that question comes up.


*gasp* this thread...its moving...ITS ALIVE!! biggrin.gif

yes i forgot the bar is also good for balance, like on sakura i always lose my balance around the gallops and i have been very tempted to use the bar...
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32. PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dj 8-ball wrote:
As long as no argueing/flaming starts I'll let this thread live.
If another mod wants to lock this anyways, g'head.
Check other "bar rape" topics for Konami's reason for the bar if that question comes up.


I tried to search for this but couldn't find it.

What is Konami's reason for the bar?
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33. PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Jazz Samurai wrote:
dj 8-ball wrote:
As long as no argueing/flaming starts I'll let this thread live.
If another mod wants to lock this anyways, g'head.
Check other "bar rape" topics for Konami's reason for the bar if that question comes up.


I tried to search for this but couldn't find it.

What is Konami's reason for the bar?
Safety obviously.
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34. PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bar isn't exactly the best mode of safety they could've come up with. It's like a foot wide.
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35. PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 7:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oolong wrote:
and you might as well use it cuz that's whaT it's there for E13.gif


No, it was there for safety, even though I end up hurting my foot in it all the time, and I never fell backwards.... so it's more of a hazard than anything if you ask me.

I don't know why people say that you can reach a conclusion, it's simple. The bar helps, you might need to get used to, but it helps. And if you'r tall, it helps even more. (One of my friend had never passed max300 nor maxX because he was playing no bar, then he tried one day for fun because the pads were too slippery since he didn't brought shoes with him and played in socks instead of boots. He tried only once..... FC max300 and A maxX. If the bar/socks didn't help him, he's god E15.gif )

Anyway, some things you might need to get used to, but here's a list of thing that helps:

- The bar ( need less stamina to pass song, can move feet faster and keeps your balance )

- Mods ( usually speed mods, solo, etc. helps your PA by making the song more readable and also giving you a bigger visual window " The timing is the same, but on the screen, you can step even farther of the arrow bar and still get perfects )

- Song whoring ( makes you learn the song and you won't be surprised by any part )

- Socks ( It can help by removing the weight of your shoes, but without the bar, it can be hard to keep your balance since it slides more than shoes.... and screws can be painful )

- Ghost steps ( It helps you keep the beat of the song and not be catch off balance when there's a long pause with no steps )

All those things helps your score on a song, but you might need to get used to it. Example, I'm way better with my feet than my fingers on SM.. why? I never play on SM E15.gif But instead of taking me like 3 months to pass max300, it took like 3 days.

Btw, all of the above are just facts, now for my opinion E13.gif

You can play like you want, but you can't compare let's say a bar raper with a non bar raper, because it's not fair. So technically, a AAA with the bar, isn't the same then without. Same with mods or song whoring, etc.

So yeah... that's it nerd.gif
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36. PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Onyx_Dimension wrote:
I don't rape the bar too much. Then again, I'm only on Standard, so I guess I wouldn't really need it yet. I try to do everything by foot. Makes you faster, and better and less dependent on the bar.


Using the bar though can also build the biceps in your muscles when you apply enough force from gripping the bar.
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37. PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its funny when people say holding the bar "looks bad".

Non bar users generally do hard 10 footers, and have to fling their arms all over the place to maintain balance, as well as leaning the top of their body forward. They end up looking like epileptics on bricks.

At least when holding the bar, your arms are in a fixed place, as is your body.
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38. PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes that is also correct ....good statement E13.gif
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39. PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 7:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of them even look like angry apes.
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