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0. PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 5:09 pm    Post subject: Bar Raper Reply with quote

Who is a Bar raper??? i am a bar raper and why do people make a big fuss and tell you you're a whimp for using the bar?? just ticks me off i used the bar in Paranoia Survivor and some idiot comes up to me hey friggen whimp stop using the bar i swear to bob i was about to send to hell lol... but why do people make a big fuss over it??
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1. PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this thread is probably going to get locked because this discussion topic comes up often and no one ever reaches a consensus. i don't bar rape, i use it on occasion but it's easier for me not to. if other people want to use the bar i have no problem with it
ppl make fun of you because they think it's waaaay easier with the bar even though it's not... and you might as well use it cuz that's whaT it's there for E13.gif
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2. PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, im trying to think about it because occasionaly, i hold onto the bar as well.

But i suppose one could say that since the majority of your weight is on your arms, you legs wont get as tired as fast, so your making easier? Maybe without your body weight your feet are more nimble.

E19.gif I havent a clue why its so looked down upon, it just is.
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3. PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do when i play songs like Max 300 or other rly fast songs, but thats about it. I find nothing wrong with it.
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4. PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some people say its "whimpy" because it makes it easier to move your feet because all your weight is on your arms but that's just it...ALL your weight is on your arms while trying to keep a grip and balance and move your legs. I think using the bar is nothing to look down on.
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5. PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I only use the bar if i'm trying to save energy, pass a 10 footer or other hard song, or on crossovers, it just seems i can put my foot on the arrows easier. If someone calls you a whimp for using it. Tell them to try Maxx without it. Most of the time they shutup. E4.gif
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6. PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm too short to use it, really. I've never used it. I'd rather not ever have to use it because then I might become dependent on it. The only other people who never use it are people who play mostly at home and thus don't have bars to do most of their practicing with.
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7. PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oolong wrote:
i don't bar rape, i use it on occasion but it's easier for me not to. ppl make fun of you because they think it's waaaay easier with the bar even though it's not... and you might as well use it cuz that's whaT it's there for E13.gif
well i only use the bar on like PSM PS Max 300 well the last part i use the bar on Max 300 MaxXU i dont use at all LoM i use it Sakura i dont use it Max. i use it but the other songs like Healing Vision Angelic Mix i wont use it on because i can take that pain of getting a cramp. and i use the bar on free styling because i like to jump over and back on go through it lol E4.gif
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8. PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 6:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use it because I have the crappiest stamina, and I always play at home with light clothes. u.u;;

Shoes really DO take it out on you..
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9. PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Morter wrote:
I use it because I have the crappiest stamina, and I always play at home with light clothes. u.u;;

Shoes really DO take it out on you..


Edit: I meant to say I use it SOMETIMES!

Usually on my first couple of runs I don't touch the thing
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10. PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

see there, "bar rapping" is like "camping" in other games, the ones that dawg it are the ones that can't do it.
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11. PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think bar raping is for the weak, haha! But then again, I find AAing, or even AAAing a song completely BORING and not crowd pleasing whatsoever and is completely unimpressive. I can do 10 footers without the bar just fine...using the bar just looks bad.

personally, I have tried using the bar and I don't like it because I'm not as mobile. I like sliding my feet all over the pad. For some reason, it seems to drain my stamina more.

I tried doing Max 300 with and without the bar. Without it I ususlly get winded when it does the 5 step quick runs after thr freeze and finish without much of a problem

With the bar. right after the barrage of quick 3 steps runs before the freeze, completed the song hating life.

Also, I figured out how to crip walk on the machine on Saturday, I'm a HAPPY BOY!
I'm going to get shot one of these days

also, funny experience. I saw these asian kids to all 3 max's and PS WITH the bar. I get up and challenge them like half an hour later to do Max 300 without the bar. They were freakin DONE before the Freeze.
Bar rapers have no stamina. no stamina = WEAK


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12. PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I say if you're going for the AAA, do anything you can to get it.

However if you're too punk to even pass the song without some kind of outside help (bar raping), youre obviously not ready for that level, so stop kidding yourself that you passed it.
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13. PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i only use the bar on hard songs or if im lazy and want to lean on sumtin...lmao hahahahha...but usually only on 10-footers
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14. PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only way I could possibly pass MaxX Unlimited on Light(yes, I know I'm sad) is to bar rape. I still can't pass it.
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15. PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

try Unlimited WITHOUT the bar on light. Then when you get to Heavy, think about adopting the bar again. laugh.gif
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16. PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oolong wrote:
this thread is probably going to get locked because this discussion topic comes up often and no one ever reaches a consensus.


i hope it doesnt. so what if no one ever reaches a consensus? its called opinions. besides this is fun to read. we should have an official bar rape thread or something E1.gif

i have never bar raped but i dont think there's anything wrong with it. its just harder to do it without the bar but its not wimpy. thats like calling someone a wimp for not being able to pass a 10-footer. some people simply cant pass songs without using the bar and thats ok. it takes less stamina because ur putting ur weight onto the bar so your legs can move around easier as opposed to not using it and having all your body weight on ur legs and trying to move them.

besides, the people who complain about bar raping probably cant do the song themselves.
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17. PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bar rape pop4 normal..does that make me a bad player? If you want to use the bar, USE IT, no one else's opinion matters, it's your money so play how you want. the only time it's not allowed is if a tourney says NO BAR RAPING ALLOWED (we had one in the NW and it was fun biggrin.gif) I wouldn't do it to do light songs though unless you have an injury or something that makes it so you can't play without it (or you're MAing on high speed mods E10.gif)
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18. PostPosted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 11:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm a total bar raper, much like caffy up there, I use the bar for everything, even doubles drool.gif for fun one day i decided to play a few cata sets without the bar and AAd tsugaru, so deep, matsuri, R&P, saints, and full comboed exotic ethnic (little fast for me to PA on 2x AND x over)

I think thats proof that the bar doesn't mean squat except for its a stamina saver and great for PAing riiight.gif
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19. PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2004 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spinal Injury wrote:
I think bar raping is for the weak, haha! But then again, I find AAing, or even AAAing a song completely BORING and not crowd pleasing whatsoever and is completely unimpressive. I can do 10 footers without the bar just fine...using the bar just looks bad.

personally, I have tried using the bar and I don't like it because I'm not as mobile. I like sliding my feet all over the pad. For some reason, it seems to drain my stamina more.

I tried doing Max 300 with and without the bar. Without it I ususlly get winded when it does the 5 step quick runs after thr freeze and finish without much of a problem

With the bar. right after the barrage of quick 3 steps runs before the freeze, completed the song hating life.

Also, I figured out how to crip walk on the machine on Saturday, I'm a HAPPY BOY!
I'm going to get shot one of these days

also, funny experience. I saw these asian kids to all 3 max's and PS WITH the bar. I get up and challenge them like half an hour later to do Max 300 without the bar. They were freakin DONE before the Freeze.
Bar rapers have no stamina. no stamina = WEAK


I think it's a great achievement to do any hard 10 footer, with or without the bar. I know I bar rape vigorously when I do PS. And talking about kids who can't do Max without the bar because they don't have enough stamina is strange when you can't do it WITH the bar for the same reason.
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