Feet Ratings (This may surprise you)

Prizm · Trick Member Joined: 07 Oct 2003 Location: Australia

Looking through the Sakura thread, it got me curious. I loaded up StepMania and went into Edit Mode. There's a predicted meter of how many feet a song should be, according to Stream, Voltage, Air, Freeze, and Chaos.
I think the derived rating is sometimes lower than it should be - sometimes a song needs to be a foot higher simply because of its speed (ie Sakura). Anyway, here's some tasty morsels, according to the predicted feet in SM:

A - 7.0
Sync - 7.2, Sync ONI - 7.8
Spin the Disc - 7.3

Bag - 8.4
Sweet Sweet Love Magic - 8.6
Exotic Ethnic - 8.8
Healing Vision Angelic - 8.9 (EE and HVAM are both solid 9 footers)
Speed Over Beethoven - 8.9

Flash in the Night - 9.3
CSFILM - 9.3
Sakura - 9.3
Maxx Unlimited - 9.3 (Who wants to whinge now and say Unlimited should be a 9 footer?

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Cartoon Heroes - 9.39
Legend of Max - 9.4 (How about that?)
Max Period ONI - 9.3, Max Period Heavy - 9.5

So Deep - 9.7 (that makes it technically harder than all of the above songs - but why are the above songs 10 footers? Speed, that's why.)

Max 300 - 10.07
PSMO - 10.2

Prizm

Sesshomaru · Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 11:13 pm Post subject:

ok, maxx unlimited is harder then max300. that needs to be fixed.
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Sidewinder · Trick Member Joined: 24 Sep 2003

May I ask how you got those ratings?
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blurry_carp · Trick Member Joined: 23 Dec 2003 Location: Sydney

Case in point: Legend of Max
I had a look through the DDR dictionary and it said:
Voltage - Peak density of steps
Stream - Overall density of steps
(The rest are irrelevant)
Legend of Max certainly has a lot of those but one thing you don't get from the groove radar is the speed of the song. Yea, technically your list would be correct, if they all had the same BPM. But Legend is much much faster than your average song, while also being high in voltage and stream, making it a worthy 10 footer.

wraith985 · Trick Member Joined: 26 Dec 2002 Location: Saratoga, CA

I think that was his point; given the steps for a song, the purely mathematical way of looking at a song's difficulty might be off by a lot, simply because math can't take into account the speed, etc. - therefore, things like sakura, which is step-wise very easy, become much harder as soon as there's speed added (or speed variances).

Anyway it's all subjective, so whatever.

arnoct · Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 3:45 am Post subject:

Yeah, I don't think the feature takes into account BPM... Then again, it was just introduced recently so it might be fixed

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Prizm · Trick Member Joined: 07 Oct 2003 Location: Australia

Aimbot · Trick Member Joined: 14 Sep 2003 Location: new jersey

i disagree strongly with those ratings. So Deep is very straightforward and i can actually pass it with a b. if i play any of the max's, sakura, or bag, i can last 30 seconds if im lucky. PSMO i cant last maybe 10 if i dont get tired before that

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dabomb5001 · Trick Member Joined: 25 Nov 2003 Location: arcade

I shouldnt be asking this here but were did you download those simfiles

and maxx unlimited is much harder than max300
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YmkFX · Trick Member Joined: 24 Jul 2003 Location: California

Maybe if you take the BPM and add it to the final score:

E.G. Max300 would have an extra .300 to it's score, MaxX Unlimited would have an extra .320, and LoM with an extra .333.

And even then, any speed changes would add an extra .1 for the number of times the BPM changes or stops.
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Misaki's Midnite Blaze · Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2004 12:40 pm Post subject:

As stated before Stepmania somewhat uses a difference rating system, the feet rating is somewhat the same as regular DDR songs however there is a vary that they may change.

But as far as I'm concerning I'm kinda wondering about Sakura I mean

Heavy = 10 Feet
Challenge = 9 Feet

How exactly did that happen? Wouldn't Challenge be more harder than Heavy?
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Pop'n Usagi! · Trick Member Joined: 17 Nov 2002 Location: Your mum

LoM would still be as hard if it was at half BPM. The speed factor is a 2-edged sword: It makes the steps nice and spread out, but 333BPM isn't nice to read either..
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blurry_carp · Trick Member Joined: 23 Dec 2003 Location: Sydney