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ddrpablo
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0.  Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 2:18 pm Post subject: all ddruk bumper packs = off sync |
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http://www.ddruk.com/downloads.php?subcat=67
I got all of em and stepmania 3.9 alpha 12
all of the songs seem to be off sync, I keep getting greats. I've played about 5 diff songs, from different mixes...sum1 help...or how can I fix this? gap thing or sumthing? the songs seem to come up too quick, causing the constant greats. |
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hooded__paladin
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| 1. Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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either 1. you're using a laggy playstation adapter
or 2. they really are off-snyc. fix them yourself and/or stop complaining.
or 3. they seem to be fine for the rest of us. stop complaining.
1 and 3 are the most likely. |
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NAOKi SYNDROME
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| 2. Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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Well, anyway, here's some helpful hints...
1. Next time, if you have any complaints on steps in terms of smoothness or performance, tell us your computer's specifics, especially processor, RAM, and video card.
2. Try using DWI, SM sucks a crapload of resources and is only intended for high end machines.
3. I've found SM 3.0 final to be a TINY bit smoother than the alphas... Try that?
4. Check if your drive is fragmented or has too much on it, that might be a cause...
As for the stepfiles themselves, they are correct. DDRUK has proven thier reliablility plenty of times. I experienced the same problem and checked the BPM, gap, etc on many sites and also did a test with Xstep to go even further. They were perfect... (The reason why they slowed was because my antivirus program began to run it's scheduled check...)
Hopefully that'll fix your problem...
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ddrpablo
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| 3. Posted: Wed Jan 21, 2004 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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| no its the file EVERY SONG on every bumper pack is off sync and gets constant greats because the arrows come up too quickly...look I've downloaded bumper packs before, but I had to get em all again, I got em from irc last time. Anyways, I tried dwi yes...stepmania 3.0...the newest stepmania...all of em are still off...how can I fix it ? |
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AllYourBase
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| 4. Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 1:55 am Post subject: |
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none of the songs are off sync. don't blame the good folks at ddruk
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Reenee
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| 5. Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 6:30 am Post subject: |
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To the author:
What do you want US to do?
Take it up with the Step Files forum at DDRUK. The mods are very responsive over there. |
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Pop'n Usagi!
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| 6. Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 6:40 am Post subject: |
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The simfiles are not off. It could be either the regional gap value, which no one but you can do anything about, your simulator, which no one but you can do anything about (I.E change it.) or your computer, which again, only you can do anything about.
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NAOKi SYNDROME
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| 7. Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 8:29 am Post subject: |
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Okay, get this straight Pablo, the files are fine... Lawrence is one of the better step file coders out there and doesn't make mistakes as bad as you claim...
It is your computer or your global gap (Look for that in your options)...
Or maybe you're not as good as you think you are!  (Blaming the stepfiles... Bleh!)
And think of it this way, if the stepfiles were that off, ALL OF US AT DDR FREAK WOULD HAVE NOTICED THAT A LLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGG time ago!!! The sim commuinity has been going to DDRUK for a very long time...
[horizontal scrolling makes Spike cry. Don't do it again]
Anyway, that's enough rage for today...
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ddrpablo
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| 8. Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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| how do i fix my regional gap v_V |
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ZOOT
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| 9. Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 7:37 pm Post subject: Re: all ddruk bumper packs = off sync |
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Wow. People sure get defensive.
Pablo, post "info.txt" from the SM program directory.
| Quote: | | your simulator, which no one but you can do anything about |
Huh? That doesn't make sense. If it's a bug in StepMania, how is he the only one that can do anything about it? :) |
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Cyan Garamonde (Nosaj)
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| 10. Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 8:11 pm Post subject: Re: all ddruk bumper packs = off sync |
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| ZOOT wrote: | | Quote: | | your simulator, which no one but you can do anything about |
Huh? That doesn't make sense. If it's a bug in StepMania, how is he the only one that can do anything about it?  |
I think he meant as far as the settings he has for his simulator are concerned, like DWI's Global Gap. That's something he'll have to play with for himself.
Another thing to keep in mind is that I believe DDRUK creates their stepfiles with DWI rather than SM in mind, and as anyone who's played any stepfile in both simulators can attest, the two simulators will more often than not start the arrows at different times. They each use the gap differently; for what reason, who knows, but it's one difference between the two programs. That said, he might have better luck with the stepfiles if he uses DWI; no guarantees for SM.
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ddrpablo
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| 11. Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2004 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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| and I told u guys, I tried sm alpha 12 er sumthing, 3.0, and dwi...so it might be my comp. but oh well, i kinda fixed it, I just put the globap gap setting in dwi to like 60 |
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ZOOT
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| 12. Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2004 12:48 am Post subject: Re: all ddruk bumper packs = off sync |
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| Quote: | | I think he meant as far as the settings he has for his simulator are concerned, like DWI's Global Gap. That's something he'll have to play with for himself. |
Except for exceptional cases ("lagged speakers", maybe wireless), you should never have to touch that yourself. If you do, it's usually a bug, either in the program, your drivers or your hardware. If it's in the program and I can get enough information on the problem, then I can do something about it.
If it's in the drivers or hardware, and there's no real fix (newer drivers) available, it might be the only option, though.
| Quote: | | Another thing to keep in mind is that I believe DDRUK creates their stepfiles with DWI rather than SM in mind, and as anyone who's played any stepfile in both simulators can attest, the two simulators will more often than not start the arrows at different times. |
I think this is often an issue with MP3 itself. I can't understand why people are still using MP3 for this: it's very bad at synchronization. Vorbis is much more robust, deterministic, it's supported by both DWI and SM--for the purposes of these games, it has no drawbacks compared to MP3 and a ton of major advantages.
| Quote: | | and I told u guys, I tried sm alpha 12 er sumthing, 3.0, and dwi...so it might be my comp. but oh well, i kinda fixed it, I just put the globap gap setting in dwi to like 60 |
Please post info.txt from SM 3.9 alpha 12. |
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| 13. Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2004 11:57 am Post subject: |
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^^
open up STEPMANIA 3.9\DATA\STEPMANIA.ini ...
go to the line GlobalOffsetSeconds
set it to:
GlobalOffsetSeconds=-0.450000
or something... as long as its negative it should fix ur problem. if it makes it worse, make the numbers positve. I have a similar problem, im thinking its probably cuz of the lag from my keyboard arrows though  HOW can we pinpoint the problem for sure? |
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Tear from DM
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| 14. Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2004 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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I don't find any of them to be off sync
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[DMB]dman.exe
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| 15. Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2004 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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If you have an issue with them, make your own. Simple.
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ZOOT
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| 16. Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 5:48 am Post subject: |
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| D-Man 95747 wrote: | | If you have an issue with them, make your own. Simple. |
If he is having sync problems in lots of files that are synced for other people, then he's very likely seeing a bug, either in his drivers or in StepMania, which I'm very interested in getting information about. Posts like this, dismissing it off-handedly, make it harder for me to get information about problems. Please stop.
(It wasn't even a meaningful suggestion: if you have sync problems with a step file, you don't "make your own"; you fix the sync problem.) |
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