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Edible Bondage Tape
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20.  Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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im 2048/128 and its prohibitivly slow
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VxJasonxV
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| 21. Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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Settle down!!
The server installation is in the DataCenter's hands, not in JDogg's. He's limited to Customer Support.
EBT, this slowness could be good for you. Give you a chance to stop post whoring so much  .
heh
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PHUT!
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| 22. Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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sometimes fast, sometimes slow. but o well. it's fast now.
and the reason why i said good job is because u gave me confidence that everything is going to be alright. that is all i needed. 
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Dread Phirate YYS
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| 23. Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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| MiltyKiss wrote: | | Yin-Yang Soul (YYS) wrote: | | Hmmm...well there's gotta be a more efficient way of getting machine locations if said problem of having too many users on here is bogging us down. Perhaps you could implement the same technique seen on some other forums where they put a disclaimer on the sign up sheet saying "Your profile will be automatically deleted if you do not post X amount of times during the first two months", X being a rather low and easily attainable number. That could save space. |
That would just make people who only want to update the machine locations (and who don't post on the forums) do an extra step when they don't need to right now.
Also, they would have to make at least one post and that would add onto the database.  |
Uuum....what? That's the point. They can post one post and if they don't post X posts (where X is greater than 1) than it gets deleted.
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Edible Bondage Tape
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| 24. Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 2:14 am Post subject: |
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| Yin-Yang Soul (YYS) wrote: | | MiltyKiss wrote: | | Yin-Yang Soul (YYS) wrote: | | Hmmm...well there's gotta be a more efficient way of getting machine locations if said problem of having too many users on here is bogging us down. Perhaps you could implement the same technique seen on some other forums where they put a disclaimer on the sign up sheet saying "Your profile will be automatically deleted if you do not post X amount of times during the first two months", X being a rather low and easily attainable number. That could save space. |
That would just make people who only want to update the machine locations (and who don't post on the forums) do an extra step when they don't need to right now.
Also, they would have to make at least one post and that would add onto the database. :P |
Uuum....what? That's the point. They can post one post and if they don't post X posts (where X is greater than 1) than it gets deleted. |
thats why they dont want to do that
thats even MORE starin on an already boggy system
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Spike
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| 25. Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 2:42 am Post subject: |
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The point is, if the problem is with an overloaded database, then forcing people to make more posts would add more to the database. Thus making the problem worse.
I do believe it was said once a previous time when someone suggested deleting users with 0 posts that having users that don't post really isn't that big of a deal. So why should we do all this new stuff (force them to post and then delete the posts if we've proven that they do it just for machine locations) when it really isn't that big of a deal?
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MeltyKiss
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| 26. Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 4:48 am Post subject: |
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| Spike wrote: | The point is, if the problem is with an overloaded database, then forcing people to make more posts would add more to the database. Thus making the problem worse.
I do believe it was said once a previous time when someone suggested deleting users with 0 posts that having users that don't post really isn't that big of a deal. So why should we do all this new stuff (force them to post and then delete the posts if we've proven that they do it just for machine locations) when it really isn't that big of a deal? |
That's basicly it. Besides, what happens if a person signs up to update a machine location, updates a machine, and then never comes back to update the machine locations? We wouldn't be able to tell that, that user was inactive but at the same time, we know that s/he has x posts so we can't delete him/her.
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devil_zukin
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| 27. Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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To sum it up if I'm correct, the "problem" will be fixed and taken care of in due time. It's not something that can be hurried anymore because it's not in the hands of the folks here.
It will get done when it gets done. Does that sum it up pretty much?
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Edible Bondage Tape
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| 28. Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2003 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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thats what Jason said
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cockmaster 2000
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| 29. Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 7:07 am Post subject: |
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Is there any better server we can get?
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VxJasonxV
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| 30. Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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Again, the 'better server' has already been purchased.
However, keep things in mind.
1) We're are limited by network bandwidth.
2) We are limited by database speed constraints.
More users = more querys = more bandwidth.
JDogg has already purchased the server. However, after purchase, we still have to wait for the DataServer (co-lo?) admins to set up the server and get it to a point where it can be remotely accessed.
Even after that is done, we still have to set up the server (set up Apache, set up the forum, set up the databases, set up EVERYTHING to work on the same lines as this site [if not a bit better]), and THEN we we have export the database from this server (and the site will probably be locked off for this) and import it into the other one.
And on top of this, there will probably be about a 24 hour down time while the Domain Name resolves to the NEW server. At that time, the board/site should be unlocked and running.
It's a very long and tedious process, so hold tight.
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Cutriss
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| 31. Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 7:27 am Post subject: |
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| VxJasonxV wrote: | | And on top of this, there will probably be about a 24 hour down time while the Domain Name resolves to the NEW server. At that time, the board/site should be unlocked and running. |
If you're locking down the server already, may as well just go ahead and hot-swap them on the same IP.
Whether or not the co-loc folks will do that remains to be seen, but it seems like a short burst of total downtime would be way better than a long, dragged-out period of downtime that slowly clears up for some.
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VxJasonxV
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| 32. Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 1:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Cutriss wrote: | | VxJasonxV wrote: | | And on top of this, there will probably be about a 24 hour down time while the Domain Name resolves to the NEW server. At that time, the board/site should be unlocked and running. |
If you're locking down the server already, may as well just go ahead and hot-swap them on the same IP.
Whether or not the co-loc folks will do that remains to be seen, but it seems like a short burst of total downtime would be way better than a long, dragged-out period of downtime that slowly clears up for some. |
However, don't take my word as the final answer. I have no say when it comes to server operation. I'm just a moderator  .
I believe this server is being kept, but we're just splitting off this site+board, and giving it it's own place.
I don't know for sure, so if you want to know, ask the big chiefs up there with the purple feet.
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| 33. Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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| VxJasonxV wrote: | | I believe this server is being kept, but we're just splitting off this site+board, and giving it it's own place. |
Ah...I figured it was a drop-in replacement.
Well, I dunno how exactly the restructuring is being done (new server hosting just the forums DB, new server hosting the complete DB, etc), but if you're splitting up or migrating the DB, then end users wouldn't need to worry about DNS propagation - You'd wait to put the new server into production until after that happens. Once it has propagated (and really, this is a backend change, so the database address really could just be plopped into /etc/hosts and not have to worry about DNS changes), lock the DB, move it, change references from localhost to the DB server, and Bob's your uncle.
Splitting the DB duties would be more cumbersome, as you'd need to copy and then individually prune the contents of the two DBs to reduce size, and modify the PHP pages and/or the forum settings appropriately. Still, it's nothing but a bit more legwork.
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PHUT!
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| 34. Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 11:52 am Post subject: |
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the site is going fast again with consistency. whatever was done to the site seems to be working! yay!
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Agilab
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| 35. Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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| PHUT! wrote: | | the site is going fast again with consistency. whatever was done to the site seems to be working! yay! |
Yeah really...maybe it was just a bug...  the server caught the flu!
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-joe-
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princessangelic
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| 37. Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 11:21 am Post subject: |
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I think someone did something.... Right now Im at my parents house in WI and in the middle of nowhere the fastest connection I get here is 24K and like its now loading faster than it was when i was in MA with cable... either that or your all against new englanders.....j/k everyone loves JA and the rest of us
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VxJasonxV
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| 38. Posted: Mon Jan 05, 2004 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, something has been done.
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The Game II
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| 39. Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 11:39 am Post subject: |
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My $1.00 - $0.98 (if someone hasn't mentioned this already).
There was some banner at the top called Vontage or something like that which killed the load times on this site. Plus, if I typed fast, I wouldn't see the letters until after a few seconds.
At times, it would not be there and the page would load up at a hella fast pace.
That ad/banner hasn't been here since the beginning of the week, and my connection to the site is normal.
--GCII
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then it loaded, i proceded to slowly make my way to the mid atlantic section, still slow... then i made this face 
