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juicey
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20.  Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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Will this work with the RO metal pad?
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mastermind3k
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| 21. Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Will this work with the RO metal pad? |
You know i'm not really sure how to do it because I've never used a RO mat. I am trying to figure out how to do it. Once I get theire wiring diagram for their control box it should be pretty easy to do it from there. I emailed them asking if they would send it to me but they haven't responded yet so we'll see. So the answer is yes. But I just don't know how at this moment. Soon to come. |
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juicey
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| 22. Posted: Thu Dec 11, 2003 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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one more question if you dont mind... Im not too good with making the cbox. It looks preety confusing and I dont want to frick it up. Can i send you some money and you buy the pad and make the cbox adaptable for a RO metal pad?
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mastermind3k
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| 23. Posted: Fri Dec 12, 2003 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | one more question if you dont mind... Im not too good with making the cbox. It looks preety confusing and I dont want to frick it up. Can i send you some money and you buy the pad and make the cbox adaptable for a RO metal pad? |
I would probably do this for you but I don't know how the wiriing diagram goes for the RO control box. When I figure it though I can probably help you or I could possibly make one for you. |
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juicey
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| 24. Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 12:17 am Post subject: |
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Thanks a bunch bro. If you ever figure out how to make it work with RO Metal Pads ill send you over my pad so you can make me a cbox. Keep me posted bro, thanks!
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SwiftDancer
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| 25. Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 1:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Im going to map it out later today.. I was gonna try and get like a piece of foil, and have it touch one part of the plug in to the plug and press the buttons to see which it is.. i know it will be tedious but redoctane won't respond. |
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mastermind3k
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| 26. Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Im going to map it out later today.. I was gonna try and get like a piece of foil, and have it touch one part of the plug in to the plug and press the buttons to see which it is.. i know it will be tedious but redoctane won't respond. |
Hey thanks a bunch. I would do it but i dont have a RO mat. I tried emailing them and all they gave me was an automated response  . I figured someone in the forums could figure it out for me and I'll try and figure everything else out from there. |
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BreenTheMachine
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| 27. Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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| If only we knew what about the xbox pad makes it show up as a pad, it would probably make it easier to do. I have RO Ignition 2.0 pads which means no external control. I wouldnt know what exactly to do. |
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GepettoZHog
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hallway03
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| 29. Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Anyone try ripping open a xbox control pad (regular one) and rewiring it for a pad? Just wondering for the guy who asked what made the xbox pad show up like a pad.. maybe it's just cause there aren't as many buttons registering or something? Cause a ps2 to xbox adapter would most likely attempt to emulate all buttons even if they aren't being used I'd think... shrug, just a quick ponder for the evening =p. |
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mastermind3k
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| 30. Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Anyone try ripping open a xbox control pad (regular one) and rewiring it for a pad? Just wondering for the guy who asked what made the xbox pad show up like a pad.. maybe it's just cause there aren't as many buttons registering or something? Cause a ps2 to xbox adapter would most likely attempt to emulate all buttons even if they aren't being used I'd think... shrug, just a quick ponder for the evening =p.
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Well I did it and everything works like a charm. I was thinking about what made it show up as a controller instead when I first did this because I was trying to figure out if there was any other way to do this. I speculated that most of that mats that you see are wired PS2 controllers. So if you wire it through a PS2 controller it probably thinks that its a controller and shows that. For the the adpaters that now show the mat I assume they use a chip or something to overide the XBOX thinking that. But that's just an idea.  |
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tolookah
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| 31. Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 10:40 am Post subject: Xbox pad Vs. Controller |
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ok to put simply, the pad and controller are USB devices, therefore, they tell the box what they are.
for the extended version: later tonight (i hope) i will be comparing the controller and the Dance pad on my computer with a USB device profiler, I will even put out the differences in the two onto this thread, so those who want info can have it. When i find this out, i will be able to at least help those inclined to learn usb 1.1 specifications with some information that they would not normally obtain easilly. if anyone knows where pictures of opened up xbox controllers live online, feel free to PM me, i would be happy to look at em.
more information (until i post later tonght) can be found here: http://euc.jp/periphs/xbox-controller.en.html |
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Jessus
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| 32. Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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i vote for this to get stickied.
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Grim Santo
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SteelFox15
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| 34. Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2003 10:02 am Post subject: a bit confused |
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| if you were to make this for a home-made pad (ex. ddrhomepad or riptide etc.), how would you be able to select songs with it? if only the four arrows are wired directly to the pad and you replace the external control box, you wouldnt be able to select anything, right? or am i missing something? |
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mastermind3k
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| 35. Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2003 11:35 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | if you were to make this for a home-made pad (ex. ddrhomepad or riptide etc.), how would you be able to select songs with it? if only the four arrows are wired directly to the pad and you replace the external control box, you wouldnt be able to select anything, right? or am i missing something? |
You can select things just fine with this design. All the switches (The arrows, X, O, Start, and Select) are all wired to the D-Shell cable in the front. This allows me to plug in Cobalt Flux's control box on the front to use me mat on the PS2, and then I can plug in the modified XBOX control box to play on my XBOX. Most people wire their mats through a PS2 controller, putting the D-Shell connector in the front and having control box plugged into it is the same exact thing. All this lets me do is switch between playing on my XBOX and my PS2 instead of having it strictly for the PS2. I hope this answers your question.  |
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ichiro
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| 36. Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2003 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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No flipping kidding; it would be far more useful if someone could demonstrate what's different to identify it.
| Quote: | | Anyone try ripping open a xbox control pad (regular one) and rewiring it for a pad? Just wondering for the guy who asked what made the xbox pad show up like a pad.. maybe it's just cause there aren't as many buttons registering or something? Cause a ps2 to xbox adapter would most likely attempt to emulate all buttons even if they aren't being used I'd think... shrug, just a quick ponder for the evening =p. |
http://ichiro.tokyotosho.com/cfxbox.htm
I haven't tried it with Live, but whatshisface is right, it's the USB descriptor. |
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Grim Santo
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GepettoZHog
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| 38. Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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OK, this may sound a little odd, but I'm tired of the lag between the CF, the CBOX and the Gemeni, to the point that I actually need to have this done (I tried to play Max2 yesterday, and got ALL GREATS  ). SO, here is my question-- seeing as you already know HOW to make a box from a deceased pad, and I don't have a soft pad of my own to kill, can I send you some $ and you build and send the new CBOX?
This is like that other guys post, except it's not RO, so you already know how to do it. I would have done it myself, but I can't find the bundled Konami pad for the life of me.
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mastermind3k
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| 39. Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2004 11:35 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | OK, this may sound a little odd, but I'm tired of the lag between the CF, the CBOX and the Gemeni, to the point that I actually need to have this done (I tried to play Max2 yesterday, and got ALL GREATS ). SO, here is my question-- seeing as you already know HOW to make a box from a deceased pad, and I don't have a soft pad of my own to kill, can I send you some $ and you build and send the new CBOX?
This is like that other guys post, except it's not RO, so you already know how to do it. I would have done it myself, but I can't find the bundled Konami pad for the life of me. |
I may be able to do this. I will have to talk to my partner aout this though. So I will have to get back to you on that. |
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