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My home built metal DDR pad (Part IV)
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1060. PostPosted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SiKrAiKeN wrote:
Hey, I was looking around for sheet metal today so I could start building my pad (finally..) and I came across this: Home Depot - Sheet Metal. It looked like what I needed, but it seemed a bit cheap. Is there anything I'm missing about it, or is it quite fine and just has a low price? Thanks. E4.gif



Man, dont go to home depot or lowes disgust.gif etc etc before you check your phone book for industrial suppliers. i got my metal for FREE!! and they even cut it for me E4.gif ask for 22 or 24 or 26 guage, it should work out fine.

if you do decide to use devil.gif tin snips devil.gif then be careful, they can really bend up the edges. dont cut all the way to the tip of the snips.
i found that out the hard way.
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1061. PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Halo_addict wrote:
SiKrAiKeN wrote:
Hey, I was looking around for sheet metal today so I could start building my pad (finally..) and I came across this: Home Depot - Sheet Metal. It looked like what I needed, but it seemed a bit cheap. Is there anything I'm missing about it, or is it quite fine and just has a low price? Thanks. E4.gif



Man, dont go to home depot or lowes disgust.gif etc etc before you check your phone book for industrial suppliers. i got my metal for FREE!! and they even cut it for me E4.gif ask for 22 or 24 or 26 guage, it should work out fine.

if you do decide to use devil.gif tin snips devil.gif then be careful, they can really bend up the edges. dont cut all the way to the tip of the snips.
i found that out the hard way.


Ah sweet. Thanks a lot for the info man. E1.gif
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1062. PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 3:06 pm    Post subject: Need Help Please Reply with quote

Help Wanted:
Need an individual to solder a controller with wires (phone wire is what I'm using) to these designated buttons: up, down, left, right, start, select, x, and triangle.

Please leave the end of the wires stripped as well, so that I can wrap them around my exsisting wires.

I'll pay of course. If you're interested in making some bucks then send me a message.

I really hope someone (with experience) will be able to do this because I suck at soldering, I've already messed up two controllers. Also I do not pay for your mess ups and I'd like it if the controller were tested before being sent off.

To continue talking about these arrangments please PM me. Got all of the pad built but I'm horrible at the soldering..well gotta go! College calls.
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1063. PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 4:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Need Help Please Reply with quote

XenoBach wrote:
Please leave the end of the wires stripped as well, so that I can wrap them around my exsisting wires.


No! wrong! not a good idea. If you simply twist wires together, you'll not get a reliable connection unless you solder them as well.

I'll bet you can handle this; it's FAR easier than the soldering-to-pcb part.
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1064. PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 6:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Need Help Please Reply with quote

SwivelGuy2 wrote:
No! wrong! not a good idea. If you simply twist wires together, you'll not get a reliable connection unless you solder them as well.

I'll bet you can handle this; it's FAR easier than the soldering-to-pcb part.


Yeah I have a soldering iron so I would've done that.

To the pcb part? Not really too sure what that is exactly. I just know there was a guide for me to follow (for GameStop and Pelican PS1 controllers) so that I could solder to these little circles next to the buttons. But for whatever reason the solder wouldn't stick (it comes with flux). Actually the first time I accidently droped a crapload of solder onto the start and select buttons making it so that it restarts all the time.

The second time, I swear God didn't want me to solder to the up part. No matter what it wouldn't stick and after time it worked less and less. So I soldered a little bit on the outside of the circle (close to where it meets with the other side). Unfortuanly this didn't work because it triggered up all the time. Then I stabbed my controller in fury cursing like a madman.

So yeah, I'm desperate. This whole making my own DDR pad has been an expensive mess that I now regret. But I just want to make this sucker work.
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1065. PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 8:45 pm    Post subject: Cheap, durable, portable, home-built pad Reply with quote

I have a set of MyMyBox brand metal pads purchased on Ebay. They've been pretty decent, but they're starting to get pretty squeaky and of course they're very heavy, not very portable.

So I'm working on a homemade design which will hopefully be very durable, sensitive, weigh less than 15 pounds each, and cost under 50 dollars in materials. I almost have it all figured out. It's not meant to recreate an arcade experience, but I think playing in the arcades is a waste of money, so I've only played there a few times, so I wouldn't even know what the arcade 'feels' like anyway. Is anyone else interested in this design?
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1066. PostPosted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 10:57 pm    Post subject: Someone please help :) Reply with quote

Hey, i was wondering if i pay someone via paypal or money order if they can purchase the controller and do all the solders to the board for me. I tried a few tiems but i just cant do it right. Please someone help...let me know if you'll do it and for what price...thx E13.gif
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1067. PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2003 12:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Someone please help :) Reply with quote

DDR4ever2003 wrote:
Hey, i was wondering if i pay someone via paypal or money order if they can purchase the controller and do all the solders to the board for me. I tried a few tiems but i just cant do it right. Please someone help...let me know if you'll do it and for what price...thx E13.gif


You sure? If you want a REALY easy one to solder get a Dance Matt and rip off the controller box. Those things are easy easy to solder! Just sand down the contacts on the end till its nice and shiny copper. Then drill a realy small hole just big enough for the wire end to go through. Get a soldering iron (the lower the wattage the better) and heat the area and add the solder. Iv never soldered anything before. But it is remarkably easy. Even if you have to buy a low wattage soldering iron.
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ddrhomepad's design is a must try...so, now I must try it! it seems to be cheap and high quality!
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1069. PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2003 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

to the people with soldering problems:

PRACTICE! PRACTICE! PRACTICE! dont think you can solder a controller (No matter how eay it is) if you have never soldered before. Get some spar sheet metal and a spare piece of wire and solder to that, you dont need a huge glump of solder to make a little wire stick. Then after you think you have it down then go to the controller, if not then find some old broken electronic thing and rip it open and solder try soldering to small things on that.

First of all dont rush, soldering isnt supposed to be quick, if you try to be quick when doing it for the first time it will mess up.

But also with soldering, do not leave the soldering Iron on the PCB board (Thats the circuit board you solder to) too long, otherwise you will fry little parts that matter.

Aand before soldering always take a small screwdriver and scrape up the area you need to solder to, Solder sticks to areas that are rough, if its smooth it wont stick well, some controllers actually have a layer of SOMETHING that doesnt allow the solder to stick...LIGHTLY scratch it off, dont get too rough or youll take all the copper off. Thats bad.

Use Rosin Core solder, its meant for this kind of stuff.

and always unplug the controller before soldering.

if you get frustrated STOP wait 10 minutes or so, maybe go eat or take a dump, whatever is in your fancy, then go back, you cant work while angry and frustrated.

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1070. PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

I read somewhere about having switches....This is a crude, and simple idea. It's much like the softpads too...Couldn't you just take a piece of weatherstripping, cut holes in it (something of that sort), take 2 pieces of sheet metal and put it on the top and bottom of the stripping. Just solder to the sheet metal, and then tape it up.

With the ends of the wires from those, you could just connect them to one ground and positive, and then do it that way...how to hold those "switches" in place would be just to glue them down or something.

That was just a thought/idea that came to mind.


I don't really have anything else to say or to add, except that I've updated my FAQ a bit =).

Til next time.
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1071. PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2003 2:56 pm    Post subject: Sup all! Reply with quote

I've built my own DDR Homepad EARLY on when he first put up directions... about page 15 or 20 of the first thread...

Anyway, to make a long story short, it worked PERFECTLY, until my little brother #@%! up the damn controller I wired. Now, the controller is shot, and I can't wire another controller! I don't know why, I've gone through two controllers and one PCB board (Topway).

Ok,

1) Does anyone know the best way to get solder to stick to damn board? I've scratched off the black on the controller spots, but the crap still won't stick! I'm getting really frustrated.

2) Would anyone be willing to solder a controller to a CAT5 cable, leaving the other end with the reg. ethernet connection and send it my way? I'd pay, of course, for everything, including about $20 for labor...

I can't find that damn gamestop controller again, and it's pissing me off!

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1072. PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2003 3:54 pm    Post subject: Hmmmmm... Reply with quote

I was thinking of building my own metal pad and I was looking at the different types of contacts fpr the pad. I came across this pic from a post a while back about a MyMyBox pad contacts and I was wondering if the people that make MyMyBox's be using stuff inside heating pads or something similar to that for contacts?
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1073. PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2003 4:08 pm    Post subject: having the same problem as PaReDFIA Reply with quote

If someone can solder me a controller like PaReDFIA id be very greatful...name ur price
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1074. PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2003 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey all, I just finished my own home pad (no one specific design, mostly an undertaking all on my own) and while doing so, came across a great site for plastics (if you are willing to pay for shipping) and its cheap:
www.plasticmaterial.cc

they sell their sheets in sizes as small as 12x12, and if you ask them before ordering, they will cut them down to size to whatever you want. I myself bought the polycarbonate material, which is a material called "Hyzod", which so far has passed all my pounce tests (my and a few friends all pouncing on them), i even went to buying 2 extra to do these tests. Just a heads up for that.

Also, if anyone is having troubles with finding soldering points and other soldering help, feel free to ask me for advice, i had no issues with mine (i actually like soldering) just be ready to send me a picture of the controller
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1075. PostPosted: Sun Sep 28, 2003 10:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another day, another project.

Well, I'm about to embark on creating another dance pad. This one will be based on Riptide's, with Beefman's idea for the corner contacts. E13.gif
Now for the fun part, adding lights...I'm still going through the endless forums for information, but could anyone redirect me or give me any information on adding lights eg which ones, where to get them, what relays or transistors, and such. Anything would be greatly appreciated. E1.gif

Thanks in advace. biggrin.gif
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Sorry about the rant be4, I finally have it working now... (SONY pads are EVIL!!!!)

I have a pad where in a few corners the wood has become rundown and lost it's grip on the screws (I believe you say the wood is 'stripped').

Anyway, is there anything I can put in the holes in the wood so the screws can catch grip again? I remember seeing somewhere that you can put sanddust in there? Or maybe something similar..?
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I have a pad where in a few corners the wood has become rundown and lost it's grip on the screws (I believe you say the wood is 'stripped').

Anyway, is there anything I can put in the holes in the wood so the screws can catch grip again? I remember seeing somewhere that you can put sanddust in there? Or maybe something similar..?


Actually, the best way to fill stripped holes is to force as many toothpicks as you can into the holes, one at a time, then break them off flush with the top of the hole. Works every time.

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for instructions on how to add lights to the pads go to patsters site he has a very comprehensive set of instructions on how to do it
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1079. PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

```KickTheCan```

Well, I know there is instructions for putting lights on a DDR dance pad for Patster's design. And sorry if I'm coming off rude by this. If you look(ed) at my FAQ on DDR metal dance pads, you'll see that I do have reference to him. I should have a link to his "instructions" too. But, the thing is, I'm building a Riptide design DDR metal dance pad. Not only that, but I'm having the blue beefman mod on it. So, that dance pad doesn't have the capasity to hold a lightbulb of that size. E2.gif
Also, I'm looking into LED lights, which are cheap, efficient, and can run off a simple battery. I could go with the outlet plug....but I don't know how I would do that for LED lights, and I don't really know where to begin for that.

So, in all, I have asked help for putting lights on a Riptide DDR metal dance pad, if that clarifies anything up. Sorry for any misconceptions anyone had. Also, any information on LED lights, which ones to get, what all the abrievs mean, etc. I am not electronic literate, or as of yet. I do hope to learn from this, and get some knowledge in doing this, so I can too help out others.

Also, I already have a "switch" idea for getting the circuit complete for the lights. I just need all the other information riiight.gif

I hope that helps out, for anyone that can help me out.

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BTW, this project that I"m working on is for my senior project...so any information would be greatly appreciated (the sooner the better E13.gif )

Also, I plan on updating my DDR metal dance pad FAQ when I finish this project. Maybe when I'm done, I'll have a mod for lights to the Riptide DDR metal dance pad E4.gif . Ah...but it's just a thought.

Thanks in advance...sry for rambling, and no offense intended E13.gif


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