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justoneuncle
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20.  Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 1:44 pm Post subject: |
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As one of today's postwhores, I speak.
I have been reading this forum for over a year now and as long as I have been here, PerfectAsymmetry and nystargate have been the moderators. I think that they have had a reputation for being rather lenient. However, they still did their job. They still assigned points when points were needed and still locked pointless topics. Phrekwenci coming in sort of "disturbed the peace" (no offense to him). It was a change of pace that was awkward. When nystargate or PA locked a pointless thread, they seemed to so with a sense of humor. Phrekwenci handles his job differently and unintentionally comes off as being mean (in some people's eyes). Posts that may be dismissed by some mods (ex. Technick receiving a point, as Jenembal noted), is being cracked down upon by Phrekwenci.
Ever since last week's incident, the number of "Phrekwenci is a...." threads had become absurd and unnecessary. As for the postwhoring that the Duke and I participated in, yeah, it was immature and was done to be funny. I got a good laugh out of the topics made. Many of the topics were inside jokes that Syracuse players would understand (read: Kaufmann's thread, past Family Food threads). While others were created for the sole purpose of postwhoring. The RANDOM x3 thread has turned into a gaming thread. I'm not justifying spamming the forum because it was stupid of me, but oh well. I apologize to my fellow NY players for contributing to the locking up of our forum. The last thing I want to see is the NY forum to be merged with other states.
I don't have any insight on how to improve the forums though. People who flame should still be dealt with and people who post-whore should receive the points they deserve (as I have).
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{SFSA} RAHK
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| 21. Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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I've been a member of DDRfreak Forums for 25 months(Counting The Old Boards, before the Change) . I counted and I dont remember anyone changing the moderators.
Most people who played 2 years ago dont post on the boards.
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J Dogg
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| 22. Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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| ~{Sketch}~ wrote: | But when you have the site administrator posting "We'll be glad to get rid of you", then you have to re-think about it all. (And actually that wasnt a very smart statement because there are alot of us who post on DDR freak maturely.)
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I don't doubt there are mature posters in NY. Just to clarify, that statement was directed at the people who think there are too many rules, want a new moderator, want to cause trouble, etc. I wouldn't mind if those people left. No offense to the majority of posters who don't fall into that category.
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sherl0k
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Mr. Deus
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| 24. Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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| sherl0k |Not on DDPD| wrote: | | but i've been trying to stop that and clean up my act. but people still come after me in the most immature fashion, flaming and just being general assholes. |
Which is why you just ignore them and wait for them to get their points. |
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~{Sketch}~
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| 25. Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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Oh, i see. Thanks for clearing that up J Dogg.
I wonder why all of a sudden alot of people are deciding to clean up their act in terms of posting, when they really dont take these boards or DDR seriously. Yea, thats what i thought. All in all i guess its good for people that do use the NY boards frequently as a way of making weekend plans and meeting up (As me and alot of my friends do), relaying info. and accomplishments (The Oni thread and the ten footer thread that were used in the past), and planning out tourneys (The SBA tourney and the NYDS tourney, as well as the local tourneys that Syracuse and Albany have from time to time.)
I say, lets kill all of this and just start posting as if nothing happened. (Whenever they open the forum back up.)
One more comment. And this is the truth whether you want to beleive it or not, as stupid as it sounds;
For anyone that didnt read it, check out the thread Ironfoot made about the hell mods like a week ago. (It should be on the second page.) Its true. Its very true. Every section of NY had their people that shut everyone else the f*ck up when they said something stupid. Sure, we had our mods when things got really drastic, but no one wanted to look like an @ss by Iron foot, Vagrant, Babylon, Durante, etc....(All of those "hell mods.") I just wanted to credit Shawn (Ironfoot) for pointing that out. |
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Fireboma
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| 26. Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 5:22 pm Post subject: |
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| J Dogg wrote: | | ~{Sketch}~ wrote: | But when you have the site administrator posting "We'll be glad to get rid of you", then you have to re-think about it all. (And actually that wasnt a very smart statement because there are alot of us who post on DDR freak maturely.)
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I don't doubt there are mature posters in NY. Just to clarify, that statement was directed at the people who think there are too many rules, want a new moderator, want to cause trouble, etc. I wouldn't mind if those people left. No offense to the majority of posters who don't fall into that category. |
Phew. I thought you were saying "OMG I HAT NY CUZ IT SUX0RS!!!" for a second there. Thx for clearing it up. Anyways, here's my $.02:
The temporary locking of the NY boards didn't really come as a shock to me, as I saw so many upstate people make stupid Phrekwenci Bashing threads. Now those people have made the mods of DDRFreak as a whole almost discriminate in a way towards people just who have New York in their location. I just come to the NY boards to talk abouut mostly my arcade (New Roc). This pisses me off how a bunch of people from Upstate ruin all the joy and fun that is/was the NY Board. Athough I do admit some mods are a bit harsh, the NY Mods were very lenient and clear in fixing things before this crap came up. This "crap" was caused by Phrekwenci indirectly (Let me remind you this is my point of view, I actually don't know most of the people in person on the NY Board). He came in and started to lock threads and give a very serious, stern , no questions asked explaination about why he locked that thread, while PA or nystargate would put some humor into it. Then the UpState haters came in. Several threads popped up like "PHREKWANSI IS GHEY!1" and "Phrek is retarded". I hope you just clear all of this up and give out the nesassary bans and points. Open up the board soon, lots of innocent threads that can't be moved are dying. Won't you feed the poor dying threads, please?
Thanks for lisening, hopefully.
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justoneuncle
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| 27. Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 6:11 pm Post subject: |
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Fireboma: I wouldn't be so quick to label upstate players as "phrekwenci-haters." If you look at what is remaining in the NY forum, the last seven (approximately) topics regarding phrekwenci haven't been from upstate players (1 or 2 more were deleted). The Phrekwenci impersonation thread (found on page 2)--not from upstate and not started from an upstate player. I'm not saying that upstate players haven't started topics regarding the issue though, but we, as a whole, should not receive the complete blame either.
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Deegan
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| 28. Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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| {SFSA} Panrahk wrote: | I've been a member of DDRfreak Forums for 25 months(Counting The Old Boards, before the Change) . I counted and I dont remember anyone changing the moderators.
Most people who played 2 years ago dont post on the boards. |
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Deegan
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| 29. Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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I dont understand why you wont give us a shot at a new moderator, if you keep phrek then this wont stop, if you purposley give us a mean mod it will get worse, even if we did choose our mod before, that had to be over a year ago, like rahk said, most of those people dont post anymore and I dont remember anyone begging for phrek to become a mod
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Phrekwenci
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| 30. Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Jenembal wrote: | | My friend Technick got points for "post whoring" when he really didnt even postwhore, and right after his post, atleat 5 other people "postwhored" and they didnt get any points, just a statement by phrek saying "this wont happen again, will it?". |
Let me tell you that Technick got 1 point for that post whoring comment of "Nice double post". One point, which is probably gone by now, and if not will be within the next week. You and him are both taking that a bit too far in context.
| Quote: | | someone that is liked by the State of NY, not me, but someone, maybe Sketch? Rahk? or Technick, but please not phrek. |
Actually, I'd have to say that the State of NY doesn't like the junk that is being put into the forum recently, that nystargate and myself have been cleaning up. It's all relative really, when people make a mess some body has to clean it up. If no one makes a mess, no one has to do anything.
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| Jenembal wrote: | | I dont understand why you wont give us a shot at a new moderator, if you keep phrek then this wont stop, if you purposley give us a mean mod it will get worse, even if we did choose our mod before, that had to be over a year ago, like rahk said, most of those people dont post anymore and I dont remember anyone begging for phrek to become a mod |
What would a new moderator possibly do for you guys? Be a better target? Not clean up after you? That isn't us. You people perceive me to be mean, but it just being straight-forward and to the point without any pink frills to soften the mood.
And just because you don't want something doesn't mean you don't deserve it.
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Remy
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| 31. Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 6:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Jenembal wrote: | | I dont understand why you wont give us a shot at a new moderator |
There have been very few instances of boards requesting another mod and it being granted. Those instances are when not enough is being locked.
If you want to provide some solid evidence where Phrek is going beyond the rules and locking things he's not supposed to, please do. But if the only reason you want him gone is that he's enforcing rules that PA and nys let slide, then he'd be getting demoted for what he was asked to do. And that's ridiculous.
| Quote: | | if you keep phrek then this wont stop, if you purposley give us a mean mod it will get worse |
Is this a threat? Are you serious?
If things don't get better, then either the board will just get relocked or, worse, get merged with another regional board and no longer be just a NY board.
| Quote: | | and I dont remember anyone begging for phrek to become a mod |
Okay, let's get a couple things straight about Phrek here.
One, when he was asked to become a mod, I couldn't find anyone on the NY board who had a problem with him. Everyone liked him just fine. Because hey, you can't call someone a nazi until they have that little green foot, right?
Two, despite the rumors I've read, he went through the same process every other mod went through. He was nominated. He was voted on. He was then asked if he wanted to accept a position. And he did. When it was felt he needed global mods, that was voted on as well.
Three, no one should be begging for any mods. Begging for a particular mod, or being someone doing the begging, screams of "Hey this guy is our friend and if he becomes a mod we can do whatever we want". Moderators are not here to be everyone's friends. Moderators are here to keep the board running smoothly.
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Rufus!
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| 32. Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 7:12 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not from NY but I have a lot of spare time and read all the relevent threads carefully. There are a few things that I don't understand. I know Phrek has global mod powers, but the NY forum says the allocated Mods are NYstargate and PerfectAsymetry. Just wondering if people are anoyed at him coming in and locking stuff.
I think mods should help out in other forums whenever, incase the assigned mods aren't always around. So people shouldn't feel bad of Phrek coming going in and locking stuff.
I would also say that the minority of you are spoling the forum for the people who do abid by the rules. Its not fair for them just cos a few people want different mods.
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Phrekwenci
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| 33. Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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Let me clear something up even farther.
I am not going to lie, I did tell Spike I was available for help as needed on the forums, whether it be some small project or moderation of the forums. He said he would keep me in mind, and that was that. Months passed and I had forgotten about that PM.
I did a lot of work in the DDR at Home forum in the Simulator threads and proposed a Simulator forum, mods liked it and also nominated me to moderate it.
That is the true story of how I became moderator. It wasn't constant nagging, it was about being helpful.
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JinzeroX
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| 34. Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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It's obvoiusly here "big bosses of ddrfreak"!! None of this nonsense flamming would've occured if Phrek was the mod, all of this would stop if he just back down back to his regular member status. Otherwise, you're just making more havic on the forums. Seriously, he may be a good person, just not suitable for this non benefit moderating job. Can't you see all of this will end by getting rid of him. Wake up
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Rufus!
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| 35. Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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| JinzeroX wrote: | | It's obvoiusly here "big bosses of ddrfreak"!! None of this nonsense flamming would've occured if Phrek was the mod, all of this would stop if he just back down back to his regular member status. Otherwise, you're just making more havic on the forums. Seriously, he may be a good person, just not suitable for this non benefit moderating job. Can't you see all of this will end by getting rid of him. Wake up |
Thats not fair at all, This site has millions of members. Not everyone will like you. Just because a few people dislike him he should have his powers taken away. That just doesn't make sense.
The best way to make the problem go away is to know what is right and wrong and move on.
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Phrekwenci
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| 36. Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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| JinzeroX wrote: | | None of this nonsense flamming would've occured if Phrek was the mod, all of this would stop if he just back down back to his regular member status. Otherwise, you're just making more havic on the forums. Seriously, he may be a good person, just not suitable for this non benefit moderating job. Can't you see all of this will end by getting rid of him. Wake up |
I think you need to wake up.
Did I make the post whoring threads?
Did I flame anyone?
Who is making the havoc here? It's not me, I am cleaning it up as best I can. I can't stop cleaning up, it's my job. This isn't going to end if I leave.
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JinzeroX
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| 37. Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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isn't it your responsibility to fix these problems without ignoring them by locking topics all the time coward??? You're not doing a great job givining what these members want. It must hurt that some of them dislike you. Even before you were a mod people had no problems with you. You're the one that needs to wake up son.
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sorjai
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| 38. Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I feel that Phrek is doing his job just fine... it's just the fact that he's more strict than the other NY mods that got a bunch of the NY'ers upset. Well, that's just how it is when someone's seemingly "privileges" gets taken away. One day you're able to make a post like "Nice double post", then the next day, you can't. People don't like things taken away from them. If the board had started with, say Spike or IguanaGrl, being the initial mod, we wouldn't be having people complaining about excessive post whoring threads getting locked.
Personally, I don't think Phrek's asking for much... he may not be as lenient, but I'm sure there is still some leniency when it comes to certain threads where ppl can discuss/do/act their own way. There are just some adjustments that had to be made, but adjusting to another moderator is like adjusting a song with mod(ifers) (sorry, couldn't resist, hehe  ).
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sorjai
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| 39. Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Rufus wrote: | | I know Phrek has global mod powers, but the NY forum says the allocated Mods are NYstargate and PerfectAsymetry. |
Yep, global mods can moderate at whatever forum. At least Phrek has willingly modded the NY forum... otherwise some other more strict mod could take it (I don't think any other global mod who is more lenient would want to tackle NY hehe).
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