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0. PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 11:51 am    Post subject: The official "NY is locked" thread. Reply with quote

Post here with your grievances, don't create a different thread about this or you will be warned. Kthx.
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1. PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it sucks, but I guess we had it coming. *sigh* Some people... disturb.gif
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2. PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NOT NICE
Why punish us new yorkers by locking our forums? You should be punishing phrekwenci by locking simulators
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3. PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll say it now. Please don't add more drama here. Its presence will not be taken kindly.

As the wise prophet Brother Marquis once said, "save the drama for your mama."
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4. PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how are you going to see if we "calm down" if you lock our thread, thats just going to piss us off more and more

you wanna know why us "NYers" are like this, phrek, before he was a mod on the New York forums everything was fine, a few locked topics here and there. Then when he became mod he took his job too seriously, locking any thread possible "its his job", yea, it was also NYStargates and PA's job and I didnt see them locking anything. "PA doesnt even look at the forums because of us being immature" then why is he still a mod? My friend Technick got points for "post whoring" when he really didnt even postwhore, and right after his post, atleat 5 other people "postwhored" and they didnt get any points, just a statement by phrek saying "this wont happen again, will it?".

What I think should happen? cut back on your rules, what are you trying to be? its a website about a game, thats all, nothing big, also give someone else a shot at being mod, someone that is liked by the State of NY, not me, but someone, maybe Sketch? Rahk? or Technick, but please not phrek.
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5. PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I nominate SuperPaco as the new mod for the NY Forum.
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6. PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks like Technick really wants it. Or maybe Sketch, he can write long posts about why the thread was locked so everyone can understand it completely. E13.gif
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7. PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now, I'm going to try to address each issue brought up here thus far.

"Why the hell did you lock NY? That's dumb. Everyone will get even madder[sic]!"
I understand that nobody who regularly posts in the NY board is happy about our current actions -- especially when it comes down to the whole "bad apples" aspect of it, but you have to understand our side of things. With the amount of crap-slinging that has been going around in the NY board, really, the most appropriate action was to just lock things down for a little bit to let everybody cool down while giving us an opportunity clean the mess up.

"Phrekwenci gives out unfair warnings! He's stupid!"
If somebody opposes the fact that they received points, they are welcome to take it up with the mod that assigned them. We're all reasonable people, and sometimes we give points where we shouldn't. Sometimes a post is taken from the wrong context, or there could be many other reasons. We will be happy to take back points that were assigned unfairly. Has anybody bothered to IM or PM Phrek saying, "hey, I don't think these points are fair?" Contrary to what you may think, Phrek doesn't sit behind his keyboard all day with an evil cackling laugh just waiting to warn people and lock threads (then again, maybe he is laugh.gif, anyway back to the matter at hand), and if you have a reasonable concern, I'm sure he'd be happy to hear you out.

"Everyone locks too damn many posts!"
Now, with regards to the posts being locked in the forum, really it comes down to two things: personal moderator style, and the frequency of moderation. Phrek is a very frequent mod of the board. When it comes to a board that has a bunch of clutter such as the NY board, some mods prefer to lock extraneous or useless threads to prevent clutter. It is my personal opinion that in a board such as NY that is as active as it is, this isn't the worst approach to take to maintain sanity. That doesn't mean to say that mods should lock threads left and right, or that necessarily all of his locks were appropriate, I'm just trying to provide an impartial explanation here.

"I nominate [name here] for mod!!"
Finally, we appreciate the nominations for mods for the board, but we're not seeking any more moderators for the NY board at this point. I feel that between the assigned mods of the board, and the others that are helping out that we have more than enough coverage. However, in times like this, drastic measures are justified to maintain order, and that's what we're doing right now.

Thanks for your understanding.


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8. PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 12:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NY has gone through so many mods it's not even funny. hdefined, JTF, PA, Remy, and guess what, nobody's ever happy. Giving you a new mod will not make you happy, because we've already done that. You New Yorkers have got to get off your "I am from NY and nobody else can tell me what to do" attitude. We are not cutting back on our rules, and we are not giving you new mods. We ALREADY gave you mods that you nominated. We ALREADY gave you your own forum when you were combined with NJ. We ALREADY took away a mod you didn't like. Guess what New York? You guys are never happy with anything, and as I said a year ago, if you want to go somewhere with fewer rules, go to ddrei.com. They'll be happy to take you, and I'll be happy to be rid of you.
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9. PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As a regular poster in the NY forums, I think this is a pretty good idea. Sure, it kinda pisses me and the people who dont make stupid posts pissed off, but ti does make sense to lock it down for a bit. I really was starting to get pissed off at those d1cks that keep makin stupid phrek threads. but i know some idiot is gonna make a new account, and make a whole new thread in the site feedback forum and do it all over again.

However, the one request that I have is that you unlock the CSA tourny thread. Its gonna be a big one, and we all need to tlak to each other about wtf is going on. If thats possible, please do it.
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10. PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

its pretty foolish of you perople to do this to phrek... im sure he dident beg to become a mod.. probley dident even ask! I personally dont understand why you were trying to get the ny fourm locked. its not fun to have 45 topics about the same person, or having sex, or any thing along those lines. we will be very lucky if the NY board gets unlocked and if it does im sure anyone who makes the first topic will be banned and it will be locked again....... so for whoever is planing on doing this i would like to know why? i mean ok your into a game if your positive its ok, but when your 18-20 years old and all you do is go home and say yea im 20 but im gonna go on my computer and cause havic on boards about a vid. game..... do you realize that you have no life whatsoever? ok phrek does lock alotta threds but he just wants to keep the junk OUT! and what so you cant sweare on the boards... big deal, what if an 8 year old gets into the game and ddrfreak comes up on google.... ddrfreak will now be in alot of trouble..... you people have to be retarted.. if you dont like ddrfreak go post on onistyles, im sure you can do what ever you want there.... but wait onistyles is down, you ask y because they have no stablity what so ever, or guidelines or anything.. 50% of the time its down so why ruin a place like ddrfreak with a friendley people and its rarley ever down.. so please everyone who is whoring, making stupid posts just stop......

PS i have no problem at all with older people who play the game its just when you think your cool for starting s.h.i.t with a board of players your just f.u.c.k.i.n.g. dorks!
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11. PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I, myself, am from New York and I support the decision in locking the board. As long as it is temporary. The only thing I'm worried about is that the person who did this to us is probably proud of it. He thrives on making fun of other people and wants to screw up the lives of others as bad as his. I don't really post enough to be bothered, but I fully understand your reason.

*Edit* Also, Phrek is a good guy, despite some minor flaws. Those of you who are wasting your time on mocking him don't even know him. So, why are you acting like this? He's a good guy. I'm sure I'll hear one of you Zeal members mocking me for this in school tomorrow, but you know what? Too bad. You don't like what I say? That's life.

And I don't intend any of this to turn into a flame war. If it does, then someone obviously didn't get their point across by locking the forums.
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12. PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you'd like, I can mod the NY forums. You can ask all the Southwest people. They know I'm harsh. Harsher than any NY mod has ever been to you.

We are not going to change our rules. The reasoning "It's a website for a game, it shouldn't be strict" is rediculous. So sorry you don't get to have your "fun" by throwing bullshit comments around. We have laid forth the rules, and you get to follow them or leave. Take your pick.

As a side note, NO mod has asked to become one. Phrekwenci never asked to become a mod. We asked him and he accpeted. Just like every other mod. He didn't brown nose, he didn't put down other people. He demonstrated the qualities of a good moderator, and we selected him.

Also, if you have a problem with a warning, take it up with the mod (as already stated). If you are not satisfied, PM me. But not being satisfied is not "I still have warning points."

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how are you going to see if we "calm down" if you lock our thread, thats just going to piss us off more and more


Your statement implies that you have the upper hand in this situation. That if we don't unlock your forum, you'll get mad and do worse stuff. This is not the case. You get to calm down, and we'll unlock the boards. If the shit continues to happen, then we'll lock it again. If you get "more and more" pissed off, then we'd be happy to ban you.

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also give someone else a shot at being mod, someone that is liked by the State of NY


Like JDogg stated, we have already given you guys numerous mods, and you were never happy. So we'll stick with who we've got, thank you.

And by the way, I'm an admin and not everyone likes me E13.gif Being liked != being a good mod. Being a good mod != letting your friends get away with things. You said that there weren't that many locked threads and few warnings before. Did it ever occur to you that THOSE mods weren't doing their job, not that Phrekwenci was doing too much? I didn't check out the NY forum that much to see if that is the case, but it is a possibility.
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13. PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

(flex)@Sv2 wrote:
and what so you cant sweare on the boards... big deal, what if an 8 year old gets into the game and ddrfreak comes up on google.... ddrfreak will now be in alot of trouble..... you people have to be retarted..


PS i have no problem at all with older people who play the game its just when you think your cool for starting s.h.i.t with a board of players your just f.u.c.k.i.n.g. dorks!


might want to re-think what you say there buddy.

anyway, there are just a lot of idiots on the NY boards that don't know when to shut up and follow the rules. a lot of pointless drama, a lot of post-whoring. it's become extremely immature. one can't even make an intelligent post without someone making a comment that would just end up offending someone else, or being so blatantly off-topic that it just aggravates people.

as for Phrekwenci... i had my gripes, discussed it privately with an admin, and got over it. i don't know why everyone else can't do the same.

new mods won't solve the problem. right now the only solution is keeping the board locked, and i respect that.
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14. PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Red Chrono wrote:
However, the one request that I have is that you unlock the CSA tourny thread. Its gonna be a big one, and we all need to tlak to each other about wtf is going on. If thats possible, please do it.


A reasonable request. I moved it to Tournament Discussion (with a shadow in NY for when it's unlocked). Carry on.

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15. PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah man.

Look at this sh!t. Its embarrassing. Furthermore, they make a thread in post feedback, and you STILL have people pointing fingers.

Theres really no reason to point fingers anyway. All you would have to do is take a look at the threads and you'd see why the NY board is locked. And im NOT pointing fingers, im just stating whats already there.

All in all, the board deserved it. And its not the majority of us that is responsible for this, which is why my first reaction was "Thats unfair, they should just ban whoever they have to ban and thats that." But it shows how serious things can get.

If the board is going to stay locked temporarily, then thats cool. Hopefully by tomorrow it gets back opened with all of the locked threads cleaned up or whatever they have to do with it. But when you have the site administrator posting "We'll be glad to get rid of you", then you have to re-think about it all. (And actually that wasnt a very smart statement because there are alot of us who post on DDR freak maturely.)

Everyone needs to shut up and go on. Phrek is very lenient. All the NY mods are. We're very, very spoiled as it is. We have our own damn forum. We have mods that actually know some of us. You really want Spike to Mod NY? I dont. (No offense, but you stated it yourself...) I SURE AS HELL dont want iguanna girl modding NY. Phrek was locking what needed to be locked. For all the people that are complaining and whining, why dont you challenge an administrator or another mod to breifly go in the NY forums and check if Phrek unlocked anything that he shouldnt have. Have any of you done that? EXACTLY, i thought so.

To iguanna girl/rampage, just reconsider the length of locking the forum. Theres a semi-big tourney in queens this weekend, and we have people from upstate coming to that. Then theres the CSA tourney, which is going to be huge. Yea, you can move the tourney threads to the tourney section, but that wont work forever. Just reconsider a bit. Thats all.

To the people responsible for this, thanks alot. Its funny to, because i have been told by one of them that alot of it was done on purpose. I just hope that the least bit of consideration will be taken from those who like to make the NY boards messy from now on. There are people who communicate on it.

Thanks.

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16. PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All i ask for is 1 more chance to have new mods, only 1 more chance, please.


And also Reflex, the reason why OniStyles is down 50% of the time is not because we are unorganized or anything, Onistyles has been down 3 times.
once when we got a new layout
once when we got a new server
and now its down because the person who owns the server can't fix on time. Also I lost count of how many times ddrfreak was down. OniStyles is run by Glenn and Glenn only, me, Bunny, Omnitarget and the rest of the mods only help.


again please give us one more chance for new mods?
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17. PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

~{Sketch}~ wrote:

But when you have the site administrator posting "We'll be glad to get rid of you", then you have to re-think about it all. (And actually that wasnt a very smart statement because there are alot of us who post on DDR freak maturely.)


He meant for all those that whine and complain, not the people who post maturely. If someone is nothing but a negative poster who is a partial cause of something like this, I would love to get rid of them. I don't want to get rid of mature posters who positively contribute to the forums, and I highly doubt JDogg does as well.
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18. PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jenembal wrote:
All i ask for is 1 more chance to have new mods, only 1 more chance, please.


No.

And on a side note, DDR Freak has 30968 registered members. With 443753 posts. 12468 topics. It is expected that with that many people, the site will have problems occasionally, especially when all of the money to pay for this is coming from one person.
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19. PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2003 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've looked through the locks that both nystargate and Phrekwenci have done in the past week or so and I saw absolutely NOTHING in those locks that I disagreed with. I completely stand behind both moderators and support their actions as they were following the guidelines laid out in the FAQ.

If you can't be mature enough to follow a few very simple rules, then we don't need you on this board - simple as that.

And no, you're not getting another moderator.
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