The Official Pump It Up Thread

Katchei · Basic Member Joined: 24 Aug 2003

Well, I didn't resort to any name calling and I won't

Phrekwenci.com · Trick Member Joined: 24 Jan 2002

asides from that video, does anyone know a GOOD PIU video resource?
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Owen Ford · Trick Member Joined: 15 Mar 2003 Location: Brighton

The thing is with all these ddr obsessives is that after they've nearly mastered their precious game most of them move on to PIU for more of a challenge anyways, well thats at least the case in England anyways.

I agree with everything on Katchei's side of the arguement. Although i like DDR i find it has nothing on pump apart from maybe its beginner friendliness.

I personally find ddr a worn out game and i am happy it has ended with extreme. Stepping wise it has nothing left to offer as all the possible patterns have been whored out too many times on too many different songs. PIU still has alot to offer step wise and andemiro are not afraid (or too lazy) to bring out new modes to keep the gameplay innovative.

CStarFlare · Maniac Member Joined: 24 Jan 2002

If you're going to have a PIU vs. DDR debate, keep it nice, or change the goddamn subject.

Please.

FowlActually · Trick Member Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Location: Woodbridge, VA

If a Pump vs DDR debate is what it takes to revive this thread, then maybe it should stay dead. And before you go off the handle on Neom's Maza, realize he was just taking a really weak arguement and turning it around to show how flawed it was. It's obvious he's played some amount of Pump, or he wouldn't know so much about it.

And Nightmare mode scares me.. I thought Slam XX Double was gone for good. Those songs are so much nastier than Vook, Prex 3 is going to be crazy.

Megido · Trick Member Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: Cleveland, OH

I hope this is the last of the DDR vs. Pump thing because it does indeed get old.

But here is my opinion in case anyone is interested:

It all comes down to popularity, and we all know which game is more popular. Right?

DDR = Konami
Konami = Millions of dollars in budget and marketing
Money = Playstation versions and whordes of arcade units
More Exposure = More players and fans of the series
All this = More popular

PIU = Andamiro
Andamiro = Less money, lower budget and marketing expenses
Less Money = Crappy PC versions (Rebirth is approaching 2 years, and still no home version in sight), no Playstation 2 or home console versions in sight, and fewer arcade updates (approx. 1 per year compared to every 9-10 months with DDR)
Less Exposure = Cult followings and devoted fans of the series
All this = Non-mainstream and less popular

With popularity, though, comes the fate of becoming Bubblegum Pop, or the Flavor of the Week. Once it's played out, it's old and no longer in. Once a song is mastered on DDR, you move on.

Pump seems to have more fan stamina, as people still play the old songs and enjoy them. The lastest version of Pump still has songs from the FIRST mix. A hardcore DDR player who walks into a new arcade and sees a 2nd or 3rd mix would probably not get very excited and move elsewhere since newer DDRs are everywhere.

EDIT: Oh I forgot to mention, I'm with Sexual Chocolate in that I prefer the 5-step layout as my MAIN reason for playing PUmp more. I really like DDR's music, though some of it is really repetitive and too similar sounding but there is enough variety.

Still, this whole argument is no different than the old Nintendo vs. Sega wars of the 80's and 90's. So this kind of argument should STAY in the 80's and 90's.

FowlActually · Trick Member Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Location: Woodbridge, VA

Well anyway...

I had the chance to play on a Premiere 2 machine again this weekend, so I decided to give Division mode another go, and I can now safely say it rocks. At first I didn't get how the whole Wild Style thing worked, how there are different levels of Wild depending on how many you hit, but now I think I get it.

Love Is A Danger Zone and Dr M all Wilds are two of the funnest songs I've ever played. I also tried Winter, which wasn't bad, and Vook, which was just like the Crazy version, but then I tried Will 'O The Wisp.. which was INSANE. The whole ending was just drill steps at 420 bpms on the same two panels for like 20 seconds

I didn't try Csiko's Post, but I'll give it a shot whenever I go back. Is it as interesting as the others? Man Division is fun, I wish Andamiro would bring it back.

MDR · Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 8:11 pm Post subject:

Csikos Post is a fun song, but DONT let your eyes wander. If you do, you'll be seeing a video that DOESNT correspond to the song. I mean the song is pretty dark and techno-ey. The movie has happy cowboys and bulls.

Oh and E-rotic is a real music group. However, they have changed their vocalists 3 times now. All of their DDR songs can be found on a Dance mania. TaQ is starting to put his work out CDs (That's what Ive heard) and Ive read that Naoki Maeda wants to put out some of his best work on a CD or several.

Going away from that, how should I go about getting the Pump machine at my work upgraded. It is in the SX model with 1 subwoofer. It is currently at PREX ever since we got it. Ive heard from the shop that getting a kit is "In the Works".
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EvilDave219 · Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2003 7:00 pm Post subject:

Hey, I just started playing Pump today because my local bowling alley got a machine in today. I have two questions:

1. What are some good songs on Premiere3 (I like Beethoven's Virus, Winter, and Vook. Are there anymore good ones)?

2. Just out of curiosity, I'm wondering how good I am for this being my first day. I was able to S Where's The Sunshine Hard, A Beethoven's Virus Hard, do a couple Crazy songs (forgot names) and get As on them, and B Vook hard. I did this all within an hour. (Keep in mind that I have played DDR for about 15 months, and I can get atleast an A on every song, including PSM:O, and I have good PA, like I've gotten 15 greats on So Deep heavy).
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DF2K.IMF · Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 12:55 am Post subject:

Play Beat of the War, like the first speed metal song in pump....DOH forgot about Trash Man.
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FowlActually · Trick Member Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Location: Woodbridge, VA

I've never played a Premiere 3, so my advice is to play them all. It's the best way to learn. You could try Bee, I've never seen the steps but it's probably a decent challenge on Hard. For playing just one day you've done pretty good, I know alot of people reach their Pump It Up peak at Beethoven Virus hard, whereas you've gotten that far your first time. Keep it up and you might be living proof that going from DDR to Pump is just as easy as going from Pump to DDR.

redviper · Trick Member Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Location: Spartanburg, SC

JackFrost · Trick Member Joined: 07 Aug 2002 Location: Boulder, CO

Does anyone have the home version of PIU?

I am thinking of ordering it, but I can't afford to get perfect collection, and I was wondering if its really worth it to just get the songs on fusion? or maybe someone could even send me perfect? Are there ways to get other songs?

Also, what's the difference between the US and Korean pads? I've heard so much about compatibility and different patches that my head just generally hurts... it would be awesome if someone could outline the basics so I can start to figure out what people are talking about

Thanks!

redviper · Trick Member Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Location: Spartanburg, SC

Pump it up tourney being held in Spartanburg, SC
For info go to the link below.

http://www.ddrfreak.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=73782
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Mystic839 · Basic Member Joined: 27 Sep 2003

Ok, the difference between the korean pads and the USA pads are thegame they work with.USA pads work with Evolutionary Dance Floor and Fusion, both have only a few songs while Korean pads work with The Perfect Collection and I think Oldies but Goodies. Don't bother with fusion and perfect collection, as I have both and can A or S every song and it only took me roughly 3 weeks.

I thought it was pretty hard going from PIU to DDR. I've been playing DDR for two weeks but I've been playing PIU for three months, and I can't do any trick DDR songs but I can B, A or S almost any PIU song.
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Yeehaw McKickass · Contributor Joined: 06 Oct 2002 Location: Chicago Area

I'm kinda late here.

I started with ddr about 14 months ago, never got a chance to play PIU until about 7 months ago (haven't been able to play it for almost 2 months) and I have to say that I learned more technique from Pump than I ever did from ddr. And PIU is by far the better game.

Learning to spin on Pump helped me get past the 7 foot level in ddr. Whenever I hit a wall in ddr, I go play pump. If I hit a wall in pump, I go play ddr. I've also gained the ability to switch between games rather quickly (I could play ddr 20 minutes before I play pump and not have problems).

But there's one thing that bugs me about ddr players perception of the game: They're too entrenched in the fact that it's not ddr. Neom's Maza's post last page proved that point. I too thought PIU was crap when I first saw it, but after I played it, I came to realize that it's the superior product.

Unfortuantley, the whole debate is roughly equivalent to the old VHS/BetaMax debate. DDR == VHS, PIU == BetaMax. Beta was, by far, the superior product, it just got buried in the cheapness of vhs.

That said, Another Truth (or whatever you want to call it) is THE best double song of any game.

I really need to get back up into chicago to play some piu.

FowlActually · Trick Member Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Location: Woodbridge, VA

Anyone get Prex3 yet? So far nowhere in the mid-east has it, to my knowledge. If you have it, what do you think? I've been dying to try Nightmare mode.

Sexual Chocolate! · Trick Member Joined: 10 Jun 2002 Location: Wilmington, DE

Yeah. Im pretty interested in hearing about Prex 3 myself. Honestly though, what Ive heard thus far doesnt excite me though. Not enough new songs yet again (two releases a year probably causes that) and too many old ones again (and once again, not the old ones that I want to see). Its really odd how a game so fun can continuously go wrong with the song selection. But as that is a matter of opinion, I suppose its neither here nor there.

Well, if anyone ends up playing Prex 3, I'd also like to hear how it is.
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redviper · Trick Member Joined: 22 Jan 2003 Location: Spartanburg, SC

RyCeKrAcKeR · Basic Member Joined: 26 Jul 2003 Location: Marina

Ok lemme juss say this.....I played DDR a good year and a half before I played PIU. I was already getting A's on most catas on DDR by then.
I looked at some fool playing PIU at the arcade and was like damn what a ripoff of DDR. Week later a few of my friends played it. I heard Beethoven Virus and i decided to try it. I still play both now. Ive been playing PIU since last summer. I can say this....as far as difficulty, PIU is MUCH more difficult. On DDR, the only song on single that i cant pass is PSM Oni.
On PIU, Slam, Winter, Holiday, Can Can, etc. have proven to be too much for me on Crazy.
As far as fun, I prefer PIU. I can freestyle soooo much better on PIU than on DDR......and, I'm better at double on PIU than on DDR.(I wont touch Vook double though.)
I guess it all just depends on the person.
Guess wat I'm trying to say is that each game has its own thing. DDR has the part of trying to AAA songs (or at least AA). Considering that S is the highest grade on PIU, DDR has it beat there.
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