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80. PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2003 1:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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hahaha. Konami loves me.

That song better be good.

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well i know the game cd and movie cd is bootleg. thats why our vidoes dont work and why the game crashes. i didnt mean machine itself being bootleg i meant the game cd and movies. oops =P


Each version of IIDX (don't know about 9th) has a security chip that coincides with the game CD, movie CD/DVD and hard drive. If you don't have the right version's chip then regardless of if the discs are bootleg or legit they won't work. It is possible you have a bootleg chip as well; check for the Konami sticker on the marquee and if there isn't one, it looks fake (not shiny) or the serial number doesn't match the title screen, then you may have a bootleg chip.

The videos are a common failure - the Victor (JVC) DVD drive used in the machines is not designed for such constant use and is usually destroyed within a year. You can adjust the gain on the drive to help out the situation but it only buys you a little time. And replacing the drive is expensive, since you have to get one with a serial [i]input[i] so the mainboard can control what video plays.

I'm guessing that this is truly your problem.

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82. PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2003 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well supposidly sometime next week, we are getting an offical konami 8th style upgrade. a new game and dvd movie disc, new dvd player.
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Appearently you have to Play D2R, Destiny, and Kakumei (Max2 songs) and you'll get this as and extra stage. Let's hope Konami doesn't dissapoint us with other songs brought from DDR *coughcelebratenitecough*

(Oh yeah, props to the people at the bemanistyle forums for showing this first)

edit: Another hidden song by playing 3 Slake songs (not that anyone would do that =P)



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Let's hope Konami doesn't dissapoint us with other songs brought from DDR *coughcelebratenitecough*
*cough*loveshine*cough*

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well supposidly sometime next week, we are getting an offical konami 8th style upgrade. a new game and dvd movie disc, new dvd player.
but no 9th style. E2.gif
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Forktronica.

I can't wait to find out what the hell that is.


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86. PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2003 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow... That would be AWESOME to play Sweet Sweet *heart* Magic on IIDX... wow... I can't wait!

Haha... forktronica... Electric Fork music... word.
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Does it strike anyone else as a little strange that the I Was the One remix degenerates to the point (between 1:09 and 1:10) where the background music is a slightly modified version of the famously catchy, endlessly looping DDR 5th Mix menu theme?
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88. PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2003 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

herbie wrote:
Lepracon Artist wrote:
Let's hope Konami doesn't dissapoint us with other songs brought from DDR *coughcelebratenitecough*
*cough*loveshine*cough*



Really. I can think of many, many more higher quality DDR songs than Sweet Sweet Love Magic or Love Shine.

And I actually think Celebrate Nite fits IIDX quite well. Though, I can think of of many better DDR songs than CN too. But I"m not trying to turn this into another "which DDR songs should be in IIDX things."
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herbie wrote:
Lepracon Artist wrote:
Let's hope Konami doesn't dissapoint us with other songs brought from DDR *coughcelebratenitecough*
*cough*loveshine*cough*



Really. I can think of many, many more higher quality DDR songs than Sweet Sweet Love Magic or Love Shine.
when i said love shine, i meant that it would suck if it was in iidx, because at that time i was still under the impression that it was in 9th style, but luckily it's not. sweet sweet love magic, on the other hand, will be great for iidx just because it's happy hardcore and there isn't enough of it. =P
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OMFG the timing on 9th style is so freaking horrible. It's totally different from any of the previous styles. It's really really weird compared to anything that came before. It's almost like you have to hit the buttons early. When you push the buttons there is a slight delay from when the light on the screen registers.

As of now I have mixed feelings towards 9th style. I like a lot of the songs on it, the new interface looks really good, everything about it is pretty good including the cool movies. BUT that timing thing is really terrible. After several plays I started to get some of the timing down. At first I was getting more goods than anything else!!!

Anyway, the new screen at svgl is soooo nice. It's crystal clear and you can see perfectly now, but that damn timing. Uhhh....I hate that. Sometimes while i was playing I kind of wished they still had 8th style instead, because of that damn timing. Its so annoying!!!
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You know, both PongAtari and I have yet to notice a real delay in the timing of 9th, at least not to the extent that people on the net have been complaining about it (aside from the two times I only Aed Comment te Dire Adieu and Nothing Ain't Stoppin' Us when I can easily AAA both at home, but that could have just been a combination of it being a fluke and difficulty in hearing the music and feeling the beat due to the loss of effector control). For most songs, particularly oldies, I play them the same way I do at home and still make roughly the same grades I always do. And when I do go home and play some IIDX after a night at the arcade, my timing seems no worse for the wear, as opposed to going from 6th PS2 to 3rd PS2, oddly enough (in which my timing for 3rd is completely poopy until I get a feel for it again, which usually takes a couple of games in Arcade Mode).

But once whatever's wrong with my car is fixed and I can get to the arcade again, I'll give it another shot. It could also be that, since the OS now seems to be XP, the people in my arcade just know how to tweak the settings just right to minimise any timing problems that might occur. Actually, that brings me to a possibly unrelated question: for you other people with 9th, how is the compression quality of the videos? I know for my arcade, many of the videos seem to have regressed back to the old VCD days in terms of the sheer amount of pixellation (some seem to have actually gotten WORSE than the old styles @.@). The video that accopanies Golden Horn, for example, looks like a bottom-of-the-barrel Sega Saturn Cinepak monstrosity when the fireworks or whatever those otherwise pretty blue sparkly things are supposed to be appear.
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Yeah, I noticed that about the videos yesterday! I was watching someone play Dreamin' Sun and the video looked like doodoo (well, the resolution anyway E4.gif).

Ryan - I'll try to take a look at the scores, but there's almost always someone playing or waiting to play, even if I go in the middle of the day.

Timing - I haven't noticed too much of a difference, and it doesn't seem to be stopping any of the good players from getting AAAs on insanely hard songs.

Forktronica.. that stuff's for kids! If you're hardcore, you listen to SPORKtronica!
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Well it does take a bit to get used to the timing. Even at the end of the day I'm still not completely comfortable with it. for example, when I first tried out the game one song I played was lion suki on 7key and I ended up scoring like 130k and doing pretty awful on the song, but towards the end I tried lion suki [A] and ended up getting 160-170k because i was getting a little used to the timing.

Then again on some songs, I just did awful getting C's and D's on stuff I know I could easily get an AA, A, or B on(depending on the song E15.gif ) if the timing was the same as on previous styles.

I remember on one song I tried in my first or second game, I got like 150 jg's, 150 g, and like 350 goods!!! It's like you can't look at the bottom part of the screen to time your button presses with note hitting the scoring line, what i've done on all previous styles.

Anyway, I really like the video for Silvia Drive. I kept trying to watch the video while playing the song and almost failed at end(still got on A on it). laugh.gif Noria's my favorite member of BeForU. biggrin.gif

I can't really comment on the quality of the videos at the arcade since the dvd drives have been messed up on both the svgl and sjsu machines since as long as i can remember. laugh.gif Oh but the videos do seem to be of lower quality than whats on the ps2 iidx games.
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You know, both PongAtari and I have yet to notice a real delay in the timing of 9th, at least not to the extent that people on the net have been complaining about it (aside from the two times I only Aed Comment te Dire Adieu and Nothing Ain't Stoppin' Us when I can easily AAA both at home, but that could have just been a combination of it being a fluke and difficulty in hearing the music and feeling the beat due to the loss of effector control).


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meh, I saw you doing pretty terrible when you first tried out the machine right. Even worse than me getting C's, D's and failing easy songs. laugh.gif
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Yeah, I got used to the timing after 3/4 games though. Not that bad.. I like 9th style.
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DCB of Roker's Smokers wrote:
Oogami128 wrote:
You know, both PongAtari and I have yet to notice a real delay in the timing of 9th, at least not to the extent that people on the net have been complaining about it (aside from the two times I only Aed Comment te Dire Adieu and Nothing Ain't Stoppin' Us when I can easily AAA both at home, but that could have just been a combination of it being a fluke and difficulty in hearing the music and feeling the beat due to the loss of effector control).


http://dcb.jkfa.org/dcbaaa.jpg


Don't get me wrong, I've gotten AAAs (well, two on 9th Style so far, Over the Clouds remix [sightreading, too], and Marmalade Reverie, but since my car is out of commission for a while and I'm kinda broke I can't get down to the arcade much these days), but I was just saying that the one time I tried the above songs I didn't do so hot. No need to be such a bastard about it, you bastard ;-p.
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The timing problem will seem a bigger problem to the people who were good already. To me 9th style is the most horrible piece of crap because of the issue.

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CStarFlare wrote:


Forktronica.

I can't wait to find out what the hell that is.


Maybe it's "Folktronica" and those crazy Japanese folks got their R's and L's mixed up again. E15.gif
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