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BeethovensVirus Basic Member
Joined: 03 Jun 2003 Location: South Jersey |
0. Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2003 9:40 pm Post subject: Ddr Fs Vs Piu Fs |
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now i have noticed a very huge difference in the DDR VS PIU FS and i def hvae to say the DDR FS is terrible. there is very little dancing in all the videos and the dancing in them isn't anything like Pop or anything it is just funny stuff. and everyone always say "Oh DJ 8-Ball" is so good at FS well lemme tell you this much i DLed like atleast 10 of his videos offline and i have to say i am atleast 10X as good as he is. he doesn't do anything but funny stuff. and the other guy i hear alot about is Ting or something like that. I have never seen either of these guys do any power moves such as a head spin, 1990's, or even an L-Kick!!!!
to make my point clear i hvae to say the DDR FS videos stink. but i have seen some really good stepping videos for DDR like the oni ones are pretty cool. but DDR FS doesn't even come close to PIU FS. _________________
I am a pump player, i just wanna check some ddr stuff out . . . |
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MattScott Trick Member
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Hawkeye Trick Member
Joined: 24 Jan 2002 Location: California |
2. Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2003 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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How brave of a PIU person to post in a DDR freak area . I don't know how can you PIU people put up with that dang load time (I can't).
Btw, capping on DDR in a DDR area is like asking for major flaming. Go post in your PIU forums (if they exist for the matter). _________________
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dreamdancer Trick Member
Joined: 12 Jun 2003 Location: You mean like, where? |
3. Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2003 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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OK, first up let me say that DJ 8-Ball's freestyle routines are absolutely awesome. And no, I am not trying to suck up to him, I don't even know him.
Please tell me where I can download 10 of his video clips, because I only have 3 or 4, and I want the more.
You say you are 10x better than 8-Ball? I want to download your videos, badly! Pump It Up or DDR, I don't really care. If you can freestyle better than 8-Ball I want to see it.
Don't take this as slagging you off, I am not saying you are not better DJ 8-Ball. It's just that I really do WANT to see any freestyle routine that is better than his.
8-Ball's Cafe' Freestyle, which is the best one that 'I' have seen, is awesome. Seeing it made me want to DDR more and even try freestyling. I wish we had a 5th mix machine in my city. _________________
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[S4U] Evo Trick Member
Joined: 21 Oct 2002 Location: El Paso, Tx |
4. Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2003 11:19 pm Post subject: Re: Ddr Fs Vs Piu Fs |
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BeethovensVirus wrote: | and everyone always say "Oh DJ 8-Ball" is so good at FS well lemme tell you this much i DLed like atleast 10 of his videos offline and i have to say i am atleast 10X as good as he is. |
without any proof or any type of videos, i dont think you should be saying that at all.
Hawkeye wrote: | Btw, capping on DDR in a DDR area is like asking for major flaming. Go post in your PIU forums (if they exist for the matter). |
Indeed. _________________
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001 MadStepz Trick Member
Joined: 06 Aug 2002 Location: West Oakland Cali |
5. Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2003 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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i am extremely tired of people thinking breakdancing is the only way to make a freestyle routine look good |
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nick. Trick Member
Joined: 09 Jul 2002 Location: Studio city, CA |
6. Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2003 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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Just giving a heads up, the mods really don't take too kindly to DDR vs. PIU threads.
And IMO, the only good thing that ever came out of PIU is beethoven virus.
beethoven virus > speed over beethoven
And as for me, both games are basically the SAME FREAKING THING what you can do one one, you can do on the other. Even though pump has 5 panels, it really doesnt make much of a difference. |
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Romantic Boy Trick Member
Joined: 14 Feb 2003 Location: In Southern California, where the romance guides me through my heart and soul |
7. Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 12:12 am Post subject: Hmmmmmmm |
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Hmmmmm...well all I have to say is. He has his own opinion. I saw 8-Ball's via Cafe, vid. I thought it was ok.
DDR freestyles I will agree most of them do suck...I judge!! There are a few Freestylers out there that give me awesome eye candy. SGT LTR, Tsinay Butterfly (Best Girl FS'er out there), JP $ just to name a few.
But comparing them? That's not really kosher.
Both games have their up's and downs. That's like trying to compare how difficult Tekken 4 is to Tekken 1. They both have their strengths in difficulty and weaknesses in difficulty.
As do the freestylers. And every PIU Freestyler isnt going to meet MY requirements as a judge. I'll tell you that right now. Why? Every judge has his/her own preferences. AS do the freestylers. _________________
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ohnoitschris Trick Member
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8. Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 12:46 am Post subject: Re: Ddr Fs Vs Piu Fs |
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BeethovensVirus wrote: | and everyone always say "Oh DJ 8-Ball" is so good at FS well lemme tell you this much i DLed like atleast 10 of his videos offline and i have to say i am atleast 10X as good as he is. |
Prove it, numbnuts. _________________
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Phrekwenci Administrator
Joined: 27 Feb 2002 Location: New York, NY |
9. Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 4:53 am Post subject: |
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There is no need for the word, numbnuts up there.
As for freestyle, well I have a few words.
DDR freestyle generally (in my opinion) doesn't compare to PIU freestyle. PIU and its arrow placement was designed more for freestyle than DDR was. Generally PIU produces a better freestyle than a DDR does.
As for dj 8-ball, I personally don't like his stuff. Though his Synchronized Love was pretty good (with Samantha). Though there is plenty of other videos of other people out there.
It's a bit harsh when you pop in here and say you are better than the "best". Do you have any vids? _________________
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ICWA Trick Member
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10. Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 6:20 am Post subject: |
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1337e$t dee dee arr jOeY wrote: | omgogogomgomgogomg teh d33 d33 arr iz so0o0o0o much better den teh pump it up!!!1!11! |
No, really, both games have their ups and downs. I find Pump freestyles to be more impressive than DDR freestlyes, probably because of the extra button that Pump players have to work with.
As for 8-Ball, Synchronized Love IS a good video! |
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NinJiTSu OLOL!O!1!1 Trick Member
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11. Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 8:22 am Post subject: Re: Ddr Fs Vs Piu Fs |
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BeethovensVirus wrote: | now i have noticed a very huge difference in the DDR VS PIU FS and i def hvae to say the DDR FS is terrible. there is very little dancing in all the videos and the dancing in them isn't anything like Pop or anything it is just funny stuff. and everyone always say "Oh DJ 8-Ball" is so good at FS well lemme tell you this much i DLed like atleast 10 of his videos offline and i have to say i am atleast 10X as good as he is. he doesn't do anything but funny stuff. and the other guy i hear alot about is Ting or something like that. I have never seen either of these guys do any power moves such as a head spin, 1990's, or even an L-Kick!!!!
to make my point clear i hvae to say the DDR FS videos stink. but i have seen some really good stepping videos for DDR like the oni ones are pretty cool. but DDR FS doesn't even come close to PIU FS. |
Dude, if that is your opinion, do you really have to say it on the ddr forums? I thing he got lost. *laughs*
HOW in heck is andamiro surviving the lawsuit? _________________
Last edited by NinJiTSu OLOL!O!1!1 on Sat Jul 05, 2003 1:16 pm, edited 1 time in total |
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MR. Ziggy Trick Member
Joined: 10 May 2003 Location: You tell me |
12. Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 8:31 am Post subject: |
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Haven't you PIU people relized that it's a cheap imatation of DDR?
PIU isn't made by Konami. _________________
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TeeHee! JP ONRY! Trick Member
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14. Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 11:48 am Post subject: |
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MR. Ziggy wrote: | Haven't you PIU people relized that it's a cheap imatation of DDR?
PIU isn't made by Konami. |
That's like saying.. Xenosaga is a cheap imitation of Xenogears because it wasn't made by Squaresoft... _________________
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Tenaciousmonk Trick Member
Joined: 20 Jan 2003 Location: Bend, Oregon, USA |
15. Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | That's like saying.. Xenosaga is a cheap imitation of Xenogears because it wasn't made by Squaresoft... |
That's a horrible example. The people who made xenosaga are still the same people who made xenogears, they just switched publsihers. SO basically what you are saying, is that Bemani made Pump it Up, and that is NOT true dumbass. |
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Captain Howdy Trick Member
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16. Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, let's straighten a couple things up, shall we?
First of all, the OP feels that PIU FS, on the whole, looks better than DDR FS. I, like quite a few others out there, am inclined to agree. I like watching PIU FS more than DDR FS.
Quote: | Btw, capping on DDR in a DDR area is like asking for major flaming. Go post in your PIU forums (if they exist for the matter). |
The OP was not "capping" on DDR. He was simply giving his opinion on DDR FS, as compared to PIU FS. NOWHERE in his post does he say, "DDR SUX, AND EVERYONE WHO PLAYS IT IS GAY." He has his reasons for liking PIU FS, and he explains them.
And for the record, PIU forums do exist. Way to go, bucko.
Quote: | you.
suck.
badly.
And, dammit, HOW in heck is andamiro surviving the lawsuit? |
Where I come from, they call this a flame. And a pretty bad one at that. No basis for what you're flaming. Just a simple insult, probably posted under the reasoning that, "The OP doesn't deserve any more explanation from you." You're not adding ANYTHING to the conversation, and really just giving the mods another reason to lock this thread.
Quote: | Haven't you PIU people relized that it's a cheap imatation of DDR?
PIU isn't made by Konami. |
Oh, I'm sorry, I suppose that means that we can't like it. PIU is different enough from DDR that I enjoy it on a completely different level than DDR. If all PIU machines had 4 arrows, a 20-something inch screen, and simply a different song selection, then I would call it a rip-off. As it stands, there's enough that's different between the two for me to enjoy both. Seriously, everyone that won't play PIU "because it's a rip-off" needs to just step off their high horse for just a second, and try it out. Who knows? You might have fun. And isn't that the point of these types of games in the first place?
Quote: | I really hate when a person makes a topic like this saying their better and all that junk and then never posts after people ask him to prove it, until he shows us vids I am not going to believe him also I doubt he will post again he just registered and i'm sure he signed up only to make a problem(this thread) |
I have to agree with you in terms of someone posting a thread, and never coming back to defend him or herself. However, it does not appear he signed up only to make a problem. The problem is with the DDR community. Most people in the community seem to have trouble accepting that there are other games out there that people could POSSIBLY enjoy more than DDR.
The OP does not ever say anything bad about DDR, itself. The OP has his preferences in FS, and since PIU FS has more of his preferred style, he likes it better. That was explained, somewhat clearly, and half the people here still haven't replied to his thread.
Anyways, to reply to the OP, I prefer PIU FS as well. It's just more fun for me to watch than DDR FS. I really don't know what it is. I just have more fun watching someone freestyling on PIU than on DDR. |
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The Game II Contributor
Joined: 06 Mar 2002 Location: Long Beach or Glendale, CA |
17. Posted: Fri Jul 04, 2003 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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I agree...PIU has more emphasis on FS than DDR, and I enjoy PIU performances/freestyles much more than some DDR performances.
ADDITION: The way DDR and PIU was structured, I enjoy FSing more on DDR because to me, PIU steps give little room for freedom rather than DDR steps.
And I have to agree with Kakumei_086, until the OP shows us some of his performances, I will not believe one word that he's better than 8-ball. _________________
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18. Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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First of all (Like everyone else has stated)... This guy shouldn't have shown his face here & probably deserves an insta-ban for the Flame (IMO, but I don't have the power)... With that said...
PIU & DDR do have similarities & differences, but I find that DDR is better than PIU on the mechanics & on the name-recognition (banking on Konami's name). I know I'm going to be bias towards DDR (only because I haven't been able to play PIU at all around me), but this is a DDR community...
First, DDR doesn't have a lot of Pop or "Radio Songs" that PIU may have... That doesn't really bother us since we like to expand our range. I know that DDR does have some songs like "Kung Fu Fighting" & "Have you Ever been Mellow" & a rendition of "Smoke (on the Water)", but those songs aren't totally recent.
Second, DDR mechanics are simplier with the cardnial 4 directions instead of the corners/center set-up with PIU. I'll give PIU that is may be easier to freestyle on, but easier does not always mean better.
Third, you probably should put your tapes where your mouth is... You threw down the gauntlet here & you should have the vids to back that up. I've seen a good cross-section of the vids on this site & I say that he's pretty good (Especially in Syncronized Love Edit), but there are some other DDRers that I like better than DJ 8-Ball.
Finally, PIU makers, Andamiro, is considered a "No Name" company in the gaming world while Konami is widely known since the mid 80's. Konami does have the ability & the power (even know I don't know how the legal suit between them is going) to keep pumping out DDR games & machines.
Let's just face it... DDR will live on.
PS to BeethovernsVirus: Work on your spelling... _________________
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NinJiTSu OLOL!O!1!1 Trick Member
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19. Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2003 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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Where I come from, they call this a flame. And a pretty bad one at that. No basis for what you're flaming. Just a simple insult, probably posted under the reasoning that, "The OP doesn't deserve any more explanation from you." You're not adding ANYTHING to the conversation, and really just giving the mods another reason to lock this thread.
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meh, sorry, but he likely wont read it anyways, cuz he's not ever going to post again.
and it's not like pumpers are people.
(i am kidding, i like pump *somewhat*)
*edit* i will edit the earlier post. Again, apologies. _________________
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