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My home built metal DDR pad (Part IV)
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THe controller are frying becauseof the static when you play on acrylic panel. Acrylic (Lucite, plexiglass) "absorb" some static and sometime it go trough the wire and to the controller so it fry.

But sony controller are not frying as I read here.... less frying
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Thats it!!!

OMG ... I thought it was something all sophisticated and hard to remedy ... Phew happy.gif Thank you happy.gifhappy.gif
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Please, a little help here!

1. I need to know where I can up load some pictures of my pad making steps (I don't know anything about web hosts, I just want a free one or someone who will host them for me, or something...)

2. I need to know, besides the 4 arrows, what other 3 buttons would be helpful to have on the pad? (ex: x,o, start; /_\, [], Select; ect...)

3. Just curious, some pads have 2 diagonal arrows on them, what are they for?
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mogbert wrote:
Please, a little help here!

1. I need to know where I can up load some pictures of my pad making steps (I don't know anything about web hosts, I just want a free one or someone who will host them for me, or something...)

2. I need to know, besides the 4 arrows, what other 3 buttons would be helpful to have on the pad? (ex: x,o, start; /_\, [], Select; ect...)

3. Just curious, some pads have 2 diagonal arrows on them, what are they for?


1.) geocities, tripod, envy.nu, angelfire...the list goes on...I don't like any of these but if you're desperate, go for it.
2.)X and O, maybe start and select..come to think of it I was just trying to think if I needed all four of them for the pad I'm building now! (go go riptide)
3.)the diagonal arrows are for the 6panel solo mode..not in the arcades I don't think, and not extremely popular

on a side note: square is useless, and triangle is basically only used when you need to back out of game mode..I guess if you're just careful you can get around that..but hey you can't go back in the arcade right? riiight.gif

hope that helps
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I'm about to solder a controller for my DDR pad..alot of people use MadCatz..but I was wondering if I could solder a dual shock psx controller. I'm pretty sure it won't make any difference other than scraping black stuff off and different solder points. anybody run into any problems while using the dual shock? just wonderin so I know whether to get out of the house again or just use what I have
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Ok I canno figure out for the life of my how to solder my controler. Ive looked at all the tutorials I can find but I still cannot figure out where the ground is. Here is a picture of my Super pad by performance.



Sorry about the picture quality but its the best I could do.

Another question I have is where do I drill the solder points? Am I actually drilling into the copper (the button) or what? If somone could lable this image I would be forever in your debt.



Oh if you live in Massachusetts I found a place that will sell you 2" stanley corner brackets at 16 for $11.00 and a sheetmetal place that will cut all your pieces and supply the sheetmetal for $4.00
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Goliath01364 wrote:
Ok I canno figure out for the life of my how to solder my controler. Ive looked at all the tutorials I can find but I still cannot figure out where the ground is. Here is a picture of my Super pad by performance.

"IMAGE HERE"

Sorry about the picture quality but its the best I could do.

Another question I have is where do I drill the solder points? Am I actually drilling into the copper (the button) or what? If somone could lable this image I would be forever in your debt.



Oh if you live in Massachusetts I found a place that will sell you 2" stanley corner brackets at 16 for $11.00 and a sheetmetal place that will cut all your pieces and supply the sheetmetal for $4.00


Right now im at school... ill try to download the picture..(on a locked pc....)

then.. modifiy it... and upload it on my multimania server (ftp.... school....omg...)

if i canot figure out this here.... Ill be back at home in 6 hour


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Dude, thats pretty sad, I can see your ground already. This was the exact same controller I think I had. I'd modify the picture to show you where your ground is on the Up, Down, Left and Right part of the pad but I don't have a reliable server to show you. I will try...

Up Button - Ground is the gold peice on the left
Right Button - Ground is the gold peice on the top
Left Button - Ground is the gold peice on the top
Down Button - Ground is the gold peice on the left

Hopefully you understand what exactly I just said, if not than, meh.
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Heh You guys rock!

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Dude, thats pretty sad, I can see your ground already.


Well considering I have never done something like this before Its not that sad......ok it is E15.gif

Thanks again
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Erm one more question, I just want to double check before I drill. Am I drilling exactly where those red and blue dotes are? (Kind of a dumb question but I want to be sure)
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I would drill to the side of them, off of the copper circuit. This will allow you to have a larger copper area to solder the wires to.
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Luckily, the controller I used had holes in it already because of how the D-pad was set up and also from where it was mounted. I removed one piece of plastic from the controller and was able to get away with building it with absolutely no drilling on the board happy.gif
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Why do you drill again? Is it just so the wires have more support and don't rip off?

Also I live in Massachusettes and I'd LOVE to know where you got the stuff for so cheap. I was gonna try my local Vo Tech School but if you know a place that is cheaper than happy.gif
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ERmmm I got another question. do I need to solder a wire to the ground in between the up and left button as well? If so Do I run that wire to both directional buttons or just one?

As for getting cheap parts in MA

2" corner braces can be found at a place called Gardner Screw in Gardner MA.
Sheet Metal at W.T. Bolduc & Son CO., INC. - Orange MA (978 544 6172)

You can also get a wide variety of Plexiglass, Lexen etc at Homedepot in Lemonster ($29.99 for ok stuff) (49.99 for lexen)
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Goliath01364 wrote:
ERmmm I got another question. do I need to solder a wire to the ground in between the up and left button as well? If so Do I run that wire to both directional buttons or just one?

As for getting cheap parts in MA

2" corner braces can be found at a place called Gardner Screw in Gardner MA.
Sheet Metal at W.T. Bolduc & Son CO., INC. - Orange MA (978 544 6172)

You can also get a wide variety of Plexiglass, Lexen etc at Homedepot in Lemonster ($29.99 for ok stuff) (49.99 for lexen)


you only need 1 wire for all your ground.... all the ground are conected togeter on the board, so you can just solder 1 wire and after divise it into 4 and put 1 on each arrow
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Goliath01364 wrote:
ERmmm I got another question. do I need to solder a wire to the ground in between the up and left button as well? If so Do I run that wire to both directional buttons or just one?

As for getting cheap parts in MA

2" corner braces can be found at a place called Gardner Screw in Gardner MA.
Sheet Metal at W.T. Bolduc & Son CO., INC. - Orange MA (978 544 6172)

You can also get a wide variety of Plexiglass, Lexen etc at Homedepot in Lemonster ($29.99 for ok stuff) (49.99 for lexen)


you only need 1 wire for all your ground.... all the ground are conected togeter on the board, so you can just solder 1 wire and after divise it into 4 and put 1 on each arrow


Ah. I noticed that they all the grounds were connected somehow I just didnt know you could splice them. heh learn something new everyday =)
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I need some advice.

It's been awhile since I posted here. I built a wicked metal DDR pad. It's a Riptide/Patster style, where the buttons have sheet metal glued to them, which comes down and contacts a number of screws located in the wooden frame underneath each button. There is a cavity in the center to allow for lighting.

So here's the problem: How the heck do you get that sheet metal to stay on the bottom of the acrylic buttons?!

My pad works great for about 20-30 games. Each time a button makes contact, slight indentations are made in the sheet metal that's on the acrylic. Eventually, these indentations get large enough to where they are pushing on the acrylic. This causes the sheet metal to loosen from the acrylic, resulting in a button that sticks on. So I'm constantly unscrewing the buttons and redoing the sheet metal contacts, which results in a pad that, quite frankly, doesn't get used very often. I feel like I wasted all that time, money, and effort, because the damn thing requires significant maintenance after just a couple of hours worth of gameplay.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
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AlternateReality wrote:
I need some advice.

It's been awhile since I posted here. I built a wicked metal DDR pad. It's a Riptide/Patster style, where the buttons have sheet metal glued to them, which comes down and contacts a number of screws located in the wooden frame underneath each button. There is a cavity in the center to allow for lighting.

So here's the problem: How the heck do you get that sheet metal to stay on the bottom of the acrylic buttons?!

My pad works great for about 20-30 games. Each time a button makes contact, slight indentations are made in the sheet metal that's on the acrylic. Eventually, these indentations get large enough to where they are pushing on the acrylic. This causes the sheet metal to loosen from the acrylic, resulting in a button that sticks on. So I'm constantly unscrewing the buttons and redoing the sheet metal contacts, which results in a pad that, quite frankly, doesn't get used very often. I feel like I wasted all that time, money, and effort, because the damn thing requires significant maintenance after just a couple of hours worth of gameplay.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!


You must use solid glue or double sided ducktape (I used that but its going to unglue soon I think).

Riptide use spray glue... dont know what kind but its on is website
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Im interested in building Patsters dance pad, Ive been to his website and ive dowlaoded the adding lights tutorial, does anybody have any info regarding the costruction process or does anybody know Patstres E-mail address? It would help me a tremendous amount if somenone could please provide some information about the pad or a tutorial of how to make the pad or if someone has way of getting hold of Patser i would greatly appreciate the help given, Thanxy the way if this post is locked please e-mail me [email protected]

P.S.- if Patster himself reads this, that pad is the coolest thing ive ever seen, good job man
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Hey, it's basically just a riptide pad, but with the wood placed so that the tall width goes vertically (extra room for lights). The rest of it I'm sure (as Patster himself has said), you can figure out yourself, if you examine his pics and the Riptide pics. The backbar is the only thing i could see you needing his help for.

In other words, you can probably figure it out. If you need help, PM Patster, or something.

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