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Shinmizu
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20. PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Technick wrote:
Go through all the songs on light until you can get a A or B on all of them, then once you pass those move on to trick.


I don't think it's necessary to wait until you've A'd or B'd all of the songs on Light. Some of those are 6 footers, and there are 2 and 3 foot Trick songs.

Also, I'd just say to play a group of songs until you can consistently pass them or get a C, then pick songs one foot up (or faster songs with the same foot rating).
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21. PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Miz wrote:

2. Females learn slower. I am not being sexest or anything, but this is the truth behind what I have seen. We have a million males and like, four females that play the game worth anything. I would like for more females to get better at the game, so ... yeah. When a woman steps up and wants to learn, I go to her first, since they need more help. Again, I am not downgrading the women of DDR, only stating that I have seen that it takes them a LITTLE longer to fall into the correct groove.


I don't really see why you brought up the gender issue. I know a bunch of men who never really got past one or two feet and I know at least one female who went from beginning to 5 feet in 4 or 5 times playing the game. And another of my female friends that I taught was doing three feet by the end of two hours. There are people who are slower to learn, and think that's all you need to say. I don't even remember if the gender of the inital person in question was ever mentioned. I think that you are right that on average women are slower to get DDR. However I don't think gender is really worth mentioning, since you could have just said "some people are slower, make allowance for that."

I'm not trying to come down hard on you or anything and I think you were honestly not trying to be defamatory, but I wanted to make the minor point that I don't think you needed to make gender enter into this issue.
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22. PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you need to have some good rythem (and spelling E15.gif ) to get DDR (or Bemani) down.
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23. PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Miz wrote:

2. Females learn slower. I am not being sexest or anything, but this is the truth behind what I have seen. We have a million males and like, four females that play the game worth anything. I would like for more females to get better at the game, so ... yeah. When a woman steps up and wants to learn, I go to her first, since they need more help. Again, I am not downgrading the women of DDR, only stating that I have seen that it takes them a LITTLE longer to fall into the correct groove.



by the way:
Allie is a girl's name and the person im teaching is a boy.... not like it matters but you brought up the gender issue.
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24. PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2003 7:34 pm    Post subject: Re: how to teach DDR Reply with quote

Allie wrote:
Should i tell him he is a failure who will never amount to anything and get it over with???


If you want too....but...

Once upon a time i was just like your friend.
I couldn't pass 1 footers or anything like that...

Now...like a year later..I'm able to beat 9 footers (and "sometimes" 10 footers...when I want to)

Just let him take his time to learn..he'll get it soon enough biggrin.gif
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25. PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2003 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't bother terribly much with lesson mode. Still can't pass the last section of the last lesson in DS: EuroMix. Most likely because I rather use my right foot for all arrows than do spins. Yes, the first few lessons are quite good, but I A one two-footer after six days of playing, three of which I was too sore to play, and I'm not passing the lesson mode anytime soon.

One thing that helped me was to get started on a song that only used the left and right arrows (I Will Survive on Beginner does that, in my game), since I didn't have to think much about moving my feet aside from stepping on the arrows. I AAA'd that one the morning after I got the game, after a total of perhaps three hours of play.

I still need to get used to standing on the arrows. L-R-L-R 1/4ths look really silly when I do them, 'cause I rather bounce back and forth between the arrows than stand on them.

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26. PostPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2003 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Um... when just getting started, I think it should be okay to step back to the middle. I'm starting to learn how to not step back, but sometimes I just need to. I don't care if it's more effort... I'm okay with sweating and losing weight!
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27. PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2003 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First of all gender doesn't have anything to do with how well you play. Where I'm origanlly from (Hawaii) there are a lot of female players out there. Most of which plays 9 footers without a problem.

The best way that you could teach someone is to use a PS or PS2 with the controller. They will learn timing and better understand the concept of how to play. One footers might not be the best place to start. Even lesson modes uses 3 to 4 footer songs. The first lesson mode is usually a concept builder. The second lessons work on structure. Correct foot placments and how to read the information that coming on the screen. Lesson 3 is usually putting it together. Your almost ready for your first song. Then lesson 4 is an entire song. Or something to that effect.

If the person is really bad, don't give up. If that person keeps playing, that means that they are having fun and trying to learn something new. When I first started, I really sucked. I could only pass Have You Never Been Mellow and Boom Boom Dollar. Now 4 years later, I can play just about any 9 foot song on single or double. Like someone said earlier in this thread, "It take practice and paticence."
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28. PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2003 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Delphy wrote:
Oh my... You would have given up on me long ago if you were teaching me. I never did fully complete lesson 3 until about a month passed. Of course, I was playing easy songs in the interim, but with mixed degrees of success.

All of us had to start somewhere. I can see people being overwhelmed at the start by the arrows to begin with even if only what more experienced players would see as a slow or steady stream of arrows. Even if the result is one step forward and two steps back, with time and patience they'll gradually progress and it'll actually be pretty fun seeing them improve.

DDR is not the only skill in the world. I'd not be so quick to write them off as hopeless; you may need their help someday - or who knows? Eventually they may pass you in skill level. The lack of coordination for DDR should not translate into the loss of a friendship



Delphy...How ironic. What is that name from? I recall somebody having that same exact login name for a administer for one of my on-line games.
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29. PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2003 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

XALAsToR wrote:


Delphy...How ironic. What is that name from? I recall somebody having that same exact login name for a administer for one of my on-line games.


Delphy is a shortened version of Delphinus (see below). I like dolphins

delphinus

\Del*phi"nus\, n. [L., a dolphin, fr. Gr. delfi`s, delfi`n.] 1. (Zo["o]l.) A genus of Cetacea, including the dolphin.

And no, I'm not the same person as the administrator - been using this type of name for at least ten years now; albeit the early years mostly on a local scale. I keep about as low a profile as possible and am pretty bad at DDR, but have fun nonetheless
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30. PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2003 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I started out I failed one-footers for the longest time (weeks, seriously!), I was terrible! Now, only a few months later I have passed a bunch of catas and I get better by the day.
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31. PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2003 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Show them at a that is is ok for them to say on the arows laugh.gif
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