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520.  Posted: Fri May 23, 2003 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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| krillin2121 wrote: | I'm makeing a RipTide base with a Beefman arrow design home pad, and I was wondering if its ok to use weatherstripping instead of the tubing in the arrow panels. I figured it wouldnt matter, but i could be wrong, just trying to figure this out.
[Edit]: Also, if I do need to use the tubing, what kind should i get, and are there any kinds I should not get (like if i cant find the required kind)? |
yeah, that will work fine
I used vinal tubing. Weather stripping, foam, silicone, springs, mouse pads all will work fine, AS LONG AS THERE 1/4 INCH! (well, thats for the beefman design, they must be 1/4
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krillin2121
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| 521. Posted: Fri May 23, 2003 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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ok everyone thanks for all your feedback on my question. i have just decided to go with the weatherstripping. 
ill take a few pics of my pad once i get my digital camera (its in the photo shop cause its broken). should have some pics within a few days.
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ZotTower
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| 522. Posted: Sat May 24, 2003 5:09 am Post subject: |
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| diabloslayer469 wrote: | | I think I might want to create my own dance pad, kind of like riptide's design but I don't have any tools and I am not that good at this kind of stuff. So what do I HAVE to do? I can have homedepot cut the 33x33 3/4" plywood and the five 10 7/8" squares, right? Can they also cut my plexiglass? Don't I have to cut off the corners by myself so that the corner braces can fit? Can Homedepot also do this? |
Home depot will cut your 33x33 base and your 10 7/8 inch squares, but they probably will not be as exact as you need them. I had to trim 9 out of 10 of my 10 7/8 inch squares. I don't think you'll be able to get them to cut your plexiglass either. Even if they did you would have to trim that too. The plexiglass especially has to be very accruate - it's best to do it yourself. I really encourage you to get everything exact as possible (measure everything) or else you're going to end up with a pad that looks crooked and doesn't work well.
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statikeffeck
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| 523. Posted: Sat May 24, 2003 7:31 am Post subject: AC, Relays, Lighting |
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I am confused about the ideas for lighting the pads. I tried searching for answers but couldn't find any.
I am wondering why you can't, or shouldn't, wire light bulbs directly to AC wires, and use the screws as the switches. Is the current too high or something? Then what about using a DC power adapter and hooking bulbs up to that in a similar fashion?
I'm not actually sure exactlty what a Solid State Relay does, and why it is needed.
Thanks
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diabloslayer469
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| 524. Posted: Sat May 24, 2003 7:35 am Post subject: |
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| ZotTower wrote: | | diabloslayer469 wrote: | | I think I might want to create my own dance pad, kind of like riptide's design but I don't have any tools and I am not that good at this kind of stuff. So what do I HAVE to do? I can have homedepot cut the 33x33 3/4" plywood and the five 10 7/8" squares, right? Can they also cut my plexiglass? Don't I have to cut off the corners by myself so that the corner braces can fit? Can Homedepot also do this? |
Home depot will cut your 33x33 base and your 10 7/8 inch squares, but they probably will not be as exact as you need them. I had to trim 9 out of 10 of my 10 7/8 inch squares. I don't think you'll be able to get them to cut your plexiglass either. Even if they did you would have to trim that too. The plexiglass especially has to be very accruate - it's best to do it yourself. I really encourage you to get everything exact as possible (measure everything) or else you're going to end up with a pad that looks crooked and doesn't work well. |
But the thing is, i don't have the tools required for this pad. I think that if bought them just for this pad it would be a waste of money. Also, on riptide's webiste he has two different measurements for the plexiglass. In the picture section he says it is 11x11 and in the tools list he says it is 10 7/8x10 7/8. Which one is it?
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-joe-
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| 525. Posted: Sat May 24, 2003 10:16 am Post subject: |
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dude, craftsman table saws OWN!!!
me and my dad cut 5 ABSOLUTELY PERFECT 10 7/8 squares with the table saw in about 3 minutes!
i couldnt imagine doing it with a hand saw, or a jig saw. circular saws may work good though, you just have to be REAL careful and steady
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diabloslayer469
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| 526. Posted: Sat May 24, 2003 10:29 am Post subject: |
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can somebody upload riptide's instructional videos onto a faster server or something? I am on cable and i'm getting a dl rate of 7k. It would take forever to download all of his videos. Can somebody put them on a faster sever or maybe somebody can send them to me on irc?
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KrakenGuy
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| 527. Posted: Sat May 24, 2003 11:00 am Post subject: |
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| Sigh, I have to remake alot of my corner brace inserts. Some of my arrows aren't fitting to great so I am going to remake them today. Yay! |
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marsman57
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| 528. Posted: Sat May 24, 2003 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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| So... I don't really understand the "screw as ground" which link is the best tutorial for that... I looked at a few, but still didn't quite understand it. |
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Xeon Transponder
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| 529. Posted: Sat May 24, 2003 6:59 pm Post subject: wow, havnt poster here in a while |
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wow, i havnt posted here in a long time, my name used to be anothrnamelessface for all you unimformed people. Anyways, i finally finished my beefman pad. (list of problems follows, feel free to skip the the bottom for the actual question) i finished the pad and it worked perfectly, i played doubles till about 5 in the morning. problem one its really loud when the panels make contact, i put shirts in the arrow wells and it didnt work too well. the next day i went to play and my nice mad cats controller decided to fry itself so i had to buy and solder to another one. While i was doing that i got bored and i started to play on the other one, it broke. After six months of working perfectly it broke. Got two controllers soldered to em, works fine now. now the question.
i have the beefman connections in my pad, my arrows have to move down an ungodly ammount to make contact. When building, did you have the flat braces with the tapers facing up or down, to clairify, did the tapers on the screw connect with the tapers on the braces, or were the tapers on the braces facing away from the screws, toward the wood? nd any ideas on how to get the panels to move less, its really poopy. it works perfectly tho.
also, i used OPEN CELL weather stripping instead of tubing since my tubing was too stiff, and it works fine.
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ZotTower
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| 530. Posted: Sat May 24, 2003 8:15 pm Post subject: Re: wow, havnt poster here in a while |
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| Mister Saturn wrote: |
i have the beefman connections in my pad, my arrows have to move down an ungodly ammount to make contact. When building, did you have the flat braces with the tapers facing up or down, to clairify, did the tapers on the screw connect with the tapers on the braces, or were the tapers on the braces facing away from the screws, toward the wood? nd any ideas on how to get the panels to move less, its really poopy. it works perfectly tho. |
You could use washers like I tried (shown in one of my pictures in the zip file I sent a link to earlier this page or last). That will make the amount that your panels ahve to be depressed a lot less.
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statikeffeck
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| 531. Posted: Sat May 24, 2003 8:22 pm Post subject: Re: wow, havnt poster here in a while |
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| Mister Saturn wrote: |
nd any ideas on how to get the panels to move less, its really poopy. it works perfectly tho.
also, i used OPEN CELL weather stripping instead of tubing since my tubing was too stiff, and it works fine. |
I am assuming you want to have the arrow panel move a shorter amount of distance to reach the contact point (metal stuff), and you are using the brace method like Beefman's style.
I think this has been mentioned before, but you could get a bunch of washers, and send the screw through the brace, and through the preferred number of washers, then into the wood. Problem is, you would probably need longer screws-- not the ones that come with the brace. The screws that come with the brace are designed to screw down and be flush with the brace's surface (the screw doesn't stick up higher than the brace). Therefore, you would need to find a screw that would be like that.
This method effectively raises your braces closer to the arrow panel, and you don't have to move it as much.
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-joe-
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| 532. Posted: Sat May 24, 2003 8:34 pm Post subject: Re: wow, havnt poster here in a while |
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| statikeffeck wrote: | | Mister Saturn wrote: |
nd any ideas on how to get the panels to move less, its really poopy. it works perfectly tho.
also, i used OPEN CELL weather stripping instead of tubing since my tubing was too stiff, and it works fine. |
I am assuming you want to have the arrow panel move a shorter amount of distance to reach the contact point (metal stuff), and you are using the brace method like Beefman's style.
I think this has been mentioned before, but you could get a bunch of washers, and send the screw through the brace, and through the preferred number of washers, then into the wood. Problem is, you would probably need longer screws-- not the ones that come with the brace. The screws that come with the brace are designed to screw down and be flush with the brace's surface (the screw doesn't stick up higher than the brace). Therefore, you would need to find a screw that would be like that.
This method effectively raises your braces closer to the arrow panel, and you don't have to move it as much. |
my braces didnt come with screws 
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| 533. Posted: Sat May 24, 2003 10:27 pm Post subject: Re: AC, Relays, Lighting |
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| statikeffeck wrote: | I am confused about the ideas for lighting the pads. I tried searching for answers but couldn't find any.
I am wondering why you can't, or shouldn't, wire light bulbs directly to AC wires, and use the screws as the switches. Is the current too high or something? Then what about using a DC power adapter and hooking bulbs up to that in a similar fashion?
I'm not actually sure exactlty what a Solid State Relay does, and why it is needed.
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Ill try to have a pic as soon as posible as I said... its because... I dont have time now... always damn wroking..... and yep when you gona look at the pic : ....its a square... .......... its because of my 2x4 .. but its ok for me.. it was jsut a light test...
the plan will come asap to
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namyzarc
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| 534. Posted: Sun May 25, 2003 6:25 am Post subject: Need a more sensitive pad, please!! |
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I've had my home built pad from ddrhomepad's design for about
6-8 months now, and it's served me well for the lower level songs.
However, my skill is finally  getting to the point where the pad
just isn't keeping up with me (I think).
I know I'm hitting the pads during an eighth chain all right,
but I keep getting goods, even several misses in a row, probably
because I just can't stomp on the pads like I used to. The songs and
rhythms have just become too fast to make stomping an option.
Does anyone have any tips I can use for overhauling ddrhomepad's
metal pad to make the pads more sensitive? Also, I'd like to replicate
the arcade feel as much as possible. I don't want it to register by just
barely touching the pad if that's not what the arcade does. How much
pressure does an arcade pad take to register? 10 pounds? 20?
Hopefully I can eventually start passing some faster songs at home,
but my pad needs to get better before I start getting frustrated with
the missed steps.
Thanks in advance,
namyzarc
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krillin2121
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| 535. Posted: Sun May 25, 2003 7:47 am Post subject: |
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| diabloslayer469 wrote: | | can somebody upload riptide's instructional videos onto a faster server or something? I am on cable and i'm getting a dl rate of 7k. It would take forever to download all of his videos. Can somebody put them on a faster sever or maybe somebody can send them to me on irc? |
Unless you want to host them yourself, I suggest you stop complaining. FTP servers running off our computers (like mine and `prodigy's) get hundreds of hits a day and are constantly being leeched and hammered upon...resulting in slow download/upload speeds.
Besides, 7kbps is a relitivly fast for any type of FTP server that is running off a home computer. just leave your computer on all night and day for like 2 nights/days and perhaps your videos will be done by then.
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| 536. Posted: Sun May 25, 2003 10:59 am Post subject: Re: Need a more sensitive pad, please!! |
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| namyzarc wrote: | I've had my home built pad from ddrhomepad's design for about
6-8 months now, and it's served me well for the lower level songs.
However, my skill is finally getting to the point where the pad
just isn't keeping up with me (I think).
I know I'm hitting the pads during an eighth chain all right,
but I keep getting goods, even several misses in a row, probably
because I just can't stomp on the pads like I used to. The songs and
rhythms have just become too fast to make stomping an option.
Does anyone have any tips I can use for overhauling ddrhomepad's
metal pad to make the pads more sensitive?
Thanks in advance,
namyzarc |
I can only answer this portion of your question for you. We have had our DDRHomepad design for about the same amount of time as you. Last month we noticed th pad had lost a bit of sensitivity. We figure that with lots of rigorous play it will need a weatherstripping overhaul about every 6 months. We were right. It took about an hour but, we replaced the weatherstripping (Changed the graphics to) and now the pad is as sensitive as it was when we first built it. If your pad was not as sensitive as you'd like it to be from the begining or, you have already tried replacing the weatherstripping, I don't know what else to tell you. I am interested in what everyone else has to say anyway. |
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-joe-
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| 537. Posted: Sun May 25, 2003 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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problems with my pad. Grrrrr
the metal screws are just annihilating the metal ground squares.
every time i play i remove brace screws. One of the braces has only 1 screw!
and, the ground contacts are scratched and dented to hell and back. Lol
any suggestions!??
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| 538. Posted: Sun May 25, 2003 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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Joe:
i reccomend using copper for the contacts that are glued to the back of your plexi....thats what i use...Copper is nice and soft...Between myself and friends we've must have spent near 200 hours on the pad on heavy without any problem, the mention of copper tape a few post back seems like another option.
as far as the 1 screw goes, why aren't you just getting another one at the local hardware store????
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ZotTower
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| 539. Posted: Sun May 25, 2003 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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I have new pictures up from today and yesterday of my pad building process. Theres a pic of the PS1 circuit board (with drilled holes where I am going to solder), some pics on how to transform a ps1 controller's cable so that it can be fit into an ethernet jack, completed arrow panels, underside of arrow panels, etc.
Take a look:
http://student.seas.gwu.edu/~zottower/DDR%20Pad/
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