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Scott_W Basic Member
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320. Posted: Sun May 04, 2003 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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Blue Beefman wrote: | hmmm so where is the best place to get LED's I mean I want ones that are bright and inexpensive...and is there a way to hook up my lights AND my arrow contacts to the same screw? cause Im using a pushbutton for the lights... |
I got mine from www.allelectronics.com |
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Scott_W Basic Member
Joined: 01 May 2003 Location: IL |
321. Posted: Sun May 04, 2003 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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Here are a few pictures:
I ordered some other red leds, those arn't bright enough |
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riptide Trick Member
Joined: 14 Aug 2002
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322. Posted: Sun May 04, 2003 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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crypistol wrote: | Thank you for your reply. By the way I think your arrow design is awesome. What a cool idea? I have tried a many number times to see the videos on your site, but haven't been able to. I have tried late at night and right clicking and save target as cause on one of these threads someone suggested that. Have you completed your pad and is it working good? I started reading all of the info in the first couple of threads on this site and it seemed to be a great idea to build one instead of buying one of those cobalts but in these later threads it seems that several people who have built there pads are still discussing ways to fix problems they are having and still looking for a way to do lighting. Papster pad looks real good, i think his design has lights using relays and 9 volt adapter for power. Do you not like that idea? Is that why you are wanting to try transitors? You told blue beefman that it can hook to the same circuit as the controller wires but have to use a relay? Does that mean it won't need a 9 volt adapter and seperate power source, like in Papster's pad design?
Riptide
Interesting idea, I'd like to know how it turns out. You shouldn't have a problem with the voltage. The playstation controllers run on about 3.5 volts, so it's not going to put much load on that doorbell at all. |
Yea, my page isn't really up-to-date. I'm really not sure who is hosting my videos(if anyone is). I really should change my site around to have a better set of instructions. The videos are just too large and take up a lot of bandwidth to host. Maybe I can put them on CD and charge a little bit to mail them out.
Using transistors will still need an external power source. The controller runs on near the same voltage as what the LEDs will need, but the LED needs more current than the controller has to offer. I think the controller could power normal LEDs, but the ultrabrights that are needed for this project need more current. I'm using transistors because I wanted to avoid relays. Relays make a clicking noise unless you buy the more expensive solid state relays, and then you're spending a good bit more. So, there will be an external power source. I used a 3v DC adapter to test it in my pad. I'll probably use the same adapter to actually power the lights. _________________
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trolli Basic Member
Joined: 17 Apr 2003
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323. Posted: Mon May 05, 2003 7:27 am Post subject: |
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ok small question on the riptide design. I'm almost finished. I'm having a little bit of a problem getting the buttons to be sensitive enough, and then when I screw the corner brackets down having them go tight without having them go too far and trigger the button all the time. Thats a time consuming but easy problem to fix.
But here is my real problem. I have down and left working great. I then work on right, and get it working great too. Testing out on the Menu of 3rd mix. and all three work great. no matter where on the button i step it works, and only triggers once (except down, which if you stand on it it constantly goes down, I think this is how the menu is supposed to work though). But when I play the game to test out the three arrows I get a small problem. It seems that right is intermittantly working. almost like if I'm standing on one of the other arrows it conflicts with the triggering of right. Does that seem odd to anyone? Has anyone had a problem like that before? and any suggestions as to what to do to get around it? |
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Zep Trick Member
Joined: 16 Apr 2003 Location: in the darkest cave on Thunder Cat Island |
324. Posted: Mon May 05, 2003 7:37 am Post subject: |
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Happy B-Day
Who ever I am talking to¿ _________________
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trolli Basic Member
Joined: 17 Apr 2003
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325. Posted: Mon May 05, 2003 11:07 am Post subject: |
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I think i actually found out a solution to the problem i mentioned above. Let me run this by you guys and let me know what you think. Since my problem doesn't happen on the menu, but only in game. I'm wondering if it has something to do with standing on one arrow and then onto a second one while still on the first.
Now I know that that should be possible, but with how I wired it I'm wondering if thats causing the problem. What I did is ran all the grounds together to a screw, then ran one wire from the screw to the ground on the controller. I'm wondering if that single wire isn't enough to be completing a circuit for multiple buttons at the same time.
Does this seem like a reasonable idea to anyone else? |
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`pr0digy Trick Member
Joined: 31 Mar 2003 Location: ogmios.ath.cx |
326. Posted: Mon May 05, 2003 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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riptide wrote: | I'm really not sure who is hosting my videos(if anyone is). I really should change my site around to have a better set of instructions. The videos are just too large and take up a lot of bandwidth to host. Maybe I can put them on CD and charge a little bit to mail them out.
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Hey, I'm still hosting em buddy Last night was the first time I restarted my computer in 6 weeks, and I had to tweak my ftp server a bit, so there was a few hours of downtime... oops... If anyone can't download from mine, it's probably because the max amount of people are already downloading. _________________
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Andreq Trick Member
Joined: 11 Apr 2003 Location: Quebec foreva |
327. Posted: Mon May 05, 2003 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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`pr0digy wrote: | riptide wrote: | I'm really not sure who is hosting my videos(if anyone is). I really should change my site around to have a better set of instructions. The videos are just too large and take up a lot of bandwidth to host. Maybe I can put them on CD and charge a little bit to mail them out.
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Hey, I'm still hosting em buddy Last night was the first time I restarted my computer in 6 weeks, and I had to tweak my ftp server a bit, so there was a few hours of downtime... oops... If anyone can't download from mine, it's probably because the max amount of people are already downloading. |
my friend is hosting them too.
look on page 4 or 5 or 8 (FPT link not the http one) for the URL _________________
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-joe- Trick Member
Joined: 08 Jan 2003 Location: lv |
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BluemeanieTrader Trick Member
Joined: 25 Apr 2003 Location: NY |
329. Posted: Mon May 05, 2003 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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Just a few tid bits after a few hours work...
1. A lot of people seem to have difficulty getting the plexi just right...(including myself at first)
What i did was make a jig for my corner brace support piece by tracing the corner brace on a piece of wood, cutting it, then making sure its perfect....make all 16 of them..
Then take your square piece of plexi, put it in its proper location on the pad, place the 4 support pieces over the plexi, but into position, then draw the line with a pencil and cut....Anything after that just sure form down..
2. I personally didn't want to wire my entire pad and then find out my contacts aren't touching or not working...
Remember touching a 9 volt to yer tongue when you were young...
I ran the wires from 2 brackets to the battery, and an additional wire (doesn't matter which bracket) out of the pad....
Then put the plexi (with the metal strip) on and pressed down....
Have the additional wire to your tongue...You'll know if it works or not...
Nice updates on the lighting plans....once i have all the soldering complete, i'll be working on that next...
Quote: | I think i actually found out a solution to the problem i mentioned above. Let me run this by you guys and let me know what you think. Since my problem doesn't happen on the menu, but only in game. I'm wondering if it has something to do with standing on one arrow and then onto a second one while still on the first.
Now I know that that should be possible, but with how I wired it I'm wondering if thats causing the problem. What I did is ran all the grounds together to a screw, then ran one wire from the screw to the ground on the controller. I'm wondering if that single wire isn't enough to be completing a circuit for multiple buttons at the same time.
Does this seem like a reasonable idea to anyone else?
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I was planning on wiring it the same way...anyone else have this problem?
-Blue |
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frisina Trick Member
Joined: 19 Feb 2003 Location: Pittsburgh, PA, USA |
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Scott_W Basic Member
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riptide Trick Member
Joined: 14 Aug 2002
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332. Posted: Mon May 05, 2003 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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BluemeanieTrader wrote: | Just a few tid bits after a few hours work...
1. A lot of people seem to have difficulty getting the plexi just right...(including myself at first)
What i did was make a jig for my corner brace support piece by tracing the corner brace on a piece of wood, cutting it, then making sure its perfect....make all 16 of them..
Then take your square piece of plexi, put it in its proper location on the pad, place the 4 support pieces over the plexi, but into position, then draw the line with a pencil and cut....Anything after that just sure form down..
2. I personally didn't want to wire my entire pad and then find out my contacts aren't touching or not working...
Remember touching a 9 volt to yer tongue when you were young...
I ran the wires from 2 brackets to the battery, and an additional wire (doesn't matter which bracket) out of the pad....
Then put the plexi (with the metal strip) on and pressed down....
Have the additional wire to your tongue...You'll know if it works or not...
Nice updates on the lighting plans....once i have all the soldering complete, i'll be working on that next...
Quote: | I think i actually found out a solution to the problem i mentioned above. Let me run this by you guys and let me know what you think. Since my problem doesn't happen on the menu, but only in game. I'm wondering if it has something to do with standing on one arrow and then onto a second one while still on the first.
Now I know that that should be possible, but with how I wired it I'm wondering if thats causing the problem. What I did is ran all the grounds together to a screw, then ran one wire from the screw to the ground on the controller. I'm wondering if that single wire isn't enough to be completing a circuit for multiple buttons at the same time.
Does this seem like a reasonable idea to anyone else?
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I was planning on wiring it the same way...anyone else have this problem?
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Instead of using the 9v battery, you coulda gone to Walmart and bought a continuency tester for a couple bucks.
The problem with standing on one arrow and hitting another turned out to be the controller itself. It was a cheap controller which didn't allow left and right or up and down to be pressed simultaneously. _________________
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trolli Basic Member
Joined: 17 Apr 2003
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333. Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 4:26 am Post subject: |
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Many people on these boards have asked the question of whats a good controller to use. And there has been much discussion on this.
I wanted to add to the list of bad controllers the interact slow/mo playstation controller. Its an old controller I had from when the playstation first came out, and it didn't allow up/down to work at the same time or left/right.
I did however find a controller that does work. soldering is a little hard on it, but you put the wires through the circuit board and solder from one side. makes a nice connection, once you actually get it through the small holes in the board. The controller I'm talking about is the weird one handed I believe they called it the rpg controller. Its also known as the ascii grip.
Here is what it looks like.
http://www.game-revolution.com/games/hardware/ascii_grip.htm
If I had a digital camera, or scanner I would show you a picture of the board inside of it, but I didn't have one at the time. The other nice thing about this board is that it is small.
Anyway, just thought I would pass that along, although I'm not sure how easy it will be to find that controller anymore. |
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NinjaFK Basic Member
Joined: 04 May 2003
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334. Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 7:08 am Post subject: |
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Hey guys, I'm new to the site... I just finished my one pad... used riptide and ddr homepad as well as some suggestions on the site and it works well... need to do a little tweaking but I'm loving it so far (especially since I'm cheap and the pad's being held together by duct tape, talk about ghetto ). I used a $5 Mad Catz controller and it worked like a charm, also my friend's dad is an electrician and he gave us a continuity tester. Since I was working in a shop which didn't have a playstation I just touched the continuity tester contacts to the contacts on the controller and pressed down the button, and it beeped!! That way I knew it was working. Its really helpful and I suggest it to people who are thinking of building a pad and their work area isn't close to their playstation. Makes testing it easier. You can buy them at Radio Shack I believe, I'll have to check the pricing. Anyways, I have a question though... I'm using pretty cheap plexiglass, and it works fine, but there is a lot of sound when I step on the pad with shoes on. I'm pretty sure its the shoe-to-plexi sound that is really loud... and I was wondering if there is a way to dampen the sound, or should I invest in higher quality plexi to reduce the sound? Thanks. |
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frisina Trick Member
Joined: 19 Feb 2003 Location: Pittsburgh, PA, USA |
335. Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 11:56 am Post subject: Argh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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For the love of God.... someone rescue me.
Just about to finish my pad today, after a four or so day haitus on working on it. I turned on the lights in my basement, and took a look at my almost finsihed pad, and almost started to weep.
... the panels rusted ...
I presume this means I purchased the wrong type of sheet metal. I used 22 guage welding sheet steel. All along I thought something was awry, as my panels were not shiney at all like some of the pictures and videos I had been seeing here on this thread.
So, can someone tell me: what kind, EXACTLY to buy? Looks like all I can salvage is the wood now. *Cries*
Help!
Thanks.
And, yes, the problem with my host is almost resolved, and I will have the Sony controller guide up soon. _________________
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Blue Beefman Trick Member
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trolli Basic Member
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337. Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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Well my pad is complete. All buttons work well. I started playing a couple easy songs to test it out. and everything seems to be going well.
Then the problem starts. after about 3 or 4 songs on normal mode all buttons on the pad stop responding. all 4 arrows, start, select, x, and o. Now when I disconnect the controller from the playstation and plug it back in its fine again.
Riptide says that its possibly a magnetic problem. Like the wires for the buttons are building up a charge the longer you play. and eventually it stops working because of it.
Does this seem reasonable to anyone else? Maybe like its not grounded well enough or something like that? I'm using riptides design of all the screws and wrapping the wires around each one.
anyone have any suggestions other then use blue beefmans or riptides new design that is still in the works? |
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frisina Trick Member
Joined: 19 Feb 2003 Location: Pittsburgh, PA, USA |
338. Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 2:15 pm Post subject: Indeed. |
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trolli wrote: | Well my pad is complete. All buttons work well. I started playing a couple easy songs to test it out. and everything seems to be going well.
Then the problem starts. after about 3 or 4 songs on normal mode all buttons on the pad stop responding. all 4 arrows, start, select, x, and o. Now when I disconnect the controller from the playstation and plug it back in its fine again.
Riptide says that its possibly a magnetic problem. Like the wires for the buttons are building up a charge the longer you play. and eventually it stops working because of it.
Does this seem reasonable to anyone else? Maybe like its not grounded well enough or something like that? I'm using riptides design of all the screws and wrapping the wires around each one.
anyone have any suggestions other then use blue beefmans or riptides new design that is still in the works? |
Magnetic? Doubltful.
Charge buildup? Very possible.
The controller circuitry operates on active low data on the channels that provide the connection for the arrows, the buttons, start select...etc... What this means is that a low (zero) voltage incidates a button has been depressed (hence why it shorts to ground when you press a button or stop an arrow on the pad). That is how it should behave normally.
However, if there is charge building up, the ground won't be able to sink enough charge to create a low voltage. This will indeed cause everything to be completely unresponsive, or perhaps partially unresponsive.
It's no wonder this might be happening, especially if there is moving plastic (wow! lots of that in the pads). The plastic moving causes some charge to build up, and if there is no grounding for the charge to leave through, it certianly can affect the operation of the pad.
My suggestion is to examine your platform and do a better job with the grounding of your arrow pads. Perhaps run leads from the pads into a barrier strip, and then have a common ground tied to the screw in your wall outlet.
If this doesn't help, see if you can't post more details on the problem. _________________
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crypistol Basic Member
Joined: 04 May 2003 Location: Arkansas |
339. Posted: Tue May 06, 2003 2:41 pm Post subject: Re: Sony PSX Controllers |
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Looking foward to seeing the guide for the controller. I will keep an eye out for it
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