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60. PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2002 3:58 pm    Post subject: Re: blue Reply with quote

Junta wrote:
blue^ - I think those adapters don't work for dance mats at all... Do they register arrows as buttons, or just the axes thing?
For Dual Shock 2 controllers, you might have to mess with the Analog button on your controller. I couldn't get it to work either. frown.gif
That's very strange... most BOOM adapters from Lik-sang.com are supposed to register arrows as buttons. Do you find yourself hitting "UP" all the time, using some keyboard-routing software, like Joy2Key?... Try using Joy2Key, that might work, although not many (including myself) have had success with that program.

The buttons register as... Um... Nothing E1.gif. Neither the button monitor nor the axis monitor of the diagnostic screen reflects any activity. Yes, this is pretty strange.

Theoretically though, the buttons should register as buttons. I've done some research and found a Chinese page that describes the button mapping, which pretty much said each of U/D/L/R/square/circle/X/triangle/L1/R1/L2/R2/Start/Select/etc buttons on the joypad should map to a unique button. (Hence `16-button'.)

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Yeah, just get the RedOctane ones (it's that "third one" you were talking about; you got the right adapter). Return those Lik-sang ones, and get the grey-looking ones, if all else fails.

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61. PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2002 4:17 pm    Post subject: Re: blue Reply with quote

Yeah, I think your adapter might work... but maybe just for other controllers. I don't think dance mats use the same button (arrows) technology as other controllers, like the Dual Shock or DS2.

I've had the same problem with those dang Levelsix.com adapters!! frust.gif I returned them and got the EMS adapter... it works, but yes, it can get screwy sometimes.

Tell us if your new Lik-sang adapters work! I'll be looking forward to a review or something... hehe~ It's good to see that someone actually got an adapter and told the rest of us! laugh.gif I was actually about to buy the same ones you got, blue^, but I was hesitant about ordering overseas. Cmon... it's Hong Kong... I'm just not ready for change, that's all...

btw, Who Moved My Cheese???!! frust.gif ... good book. E1.gif

hey, blue, please tell me you got this adapter. It's the $14.90 one, and it has that detachable cable or something... It was one of StepMania's recommended adapters, since it handled simultaneous button presses (up&down or left&right). This is the one I was talking about.
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62. PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2002 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

crap junta, what do u mean it can get screwy sometimes? it sticks? lags?
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hey, blue, please tell me you got this adapter. It's the $14.90 one, and it has that detachable cable or something... It was one of StepMania's recommended adapters, since it handled simultaneous button presses (up&down or left&right). This is the one I was talking about.


Yes, that's what I've ordered this time. *fingers crossed*

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64. PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2002 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

confound it. blue^, I ordered the same one you did initially from lik sang, so I guess we're about to get double confirmation that it doesn't work. (Mine should arrive any day now.)

So how do you go about returning something to whatever remote corner of asia lik sang is in?

(And I agree with whoever said this thread should be sticky.)
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65. PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2002 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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crap junta, what do u mean it can get screwy sometimes? it sticks? lags?


I tested it out today (on my metal pad)... got an A on Nori Nori Nori on Maniac (YES, I own the soundtrack, so it's legal) in DWI! E1.gif It's not laggy... except if you have it on FULL SCREEN... then it's like 0.001 sec laggy. In a nutshell, rise, if you are REALLY good at DDR, then you will have no problems;... Really good ... as in, able to pass any 6 or 7-footer song. riiight.gif

I meant it was screwy because I can't play my NeoGeo games with it!! ARGGHHH! I hate this thing! frust.gif Kidding... I love it so much... It's good for DDR, but think twice for Winkawaks or Nebula. (NeoGeo)

Oh, and for your info, rise, THIS can support freeze arrows biggrin.gif

Blue^ - GOOOOODDD...... Let's hope this works this time! E4.gif Did you try to return your old adapters yet? disturb.gif
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66. PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2002 8:09 pm    Post subject: Re: however Reply with quote

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Vdrej - Lol, the best part was the time when your website where you ordered that Two-in-one adapter said "This will work with all DDR for PC Also!" Lol, what a jip... what are you going to do now?


I guess i'm screwed and i have to shell out some more money to get ones that actually work.

what seems to be overall better for 2 player play and stability, the working USB type or the paralell?

meaning...what do you guys think is the absolute best choice right now, without being more than like 16$ dollars for 2 player compatibility (doubles, or just couple)

this stuff is so crazy...
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67. PostPosted: Fri Aug 02, 2002 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Blue^ - GOOOOODDD...... Let's hope this works this time! E4.gif Did you try to return your old adapters yet? disturb.gif


I wouldn't even bother to return them for a refund of $25 or so... The shipping and insurance will be probably higher than that disturb.gif.

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vdrej wrote:
what seems to be overall better for 2 player play and stability, the working USB type or the paralell?

meaning...what do you guys think is the absolute best choice right now, without being more than like 16$ dollars for 2 player compatibility (doubles, or just couple)

this stuff is so crazy...

Yeah, it is crazy... I ended up having to shell out $35 so far to finally find working adapters. I first started out with these (they DO NOT work like they used to... they're different models now; the arrows are mapped as axes, so don't even bother); they didn't work, so I emailed LevelSix, and they said "heyyyy... we never said they would work with DDR, so HAHA!" So I exchanged the adapters for the EMS ones (They work E4.gif ) at my expense (I had to pay for shipping... blech)... and it was all good from then on. Of course, the entire process took about 3 weeks, but it was worth it!

I think getting one of the EMS adapters would definitely keep you happy for the time. E1.gif It's worth it, especially if you just play at home, and you are basically getting two adapters (only they're stuck together)! But since you want something that is lower than $16, maybe you should consider getting two parallel port ones... although you'll need two parallel ports to plug them into and have them work simultaneously! laugh.gif It's up to you.

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I wouldn't even bother to return them for a refund of $25 or so... The shipping and insurance will be probably higher than that .

Eugene

Yeah, I would do the same. disgust.gif Even though they took your money and are probably using it to hire 5 more Hong Kong kids to make 1500 PSX adapters a day... laugh.gif kidding. Well, at least you can use it for other programs... so it's not a complete waste, you know. E4.gif You could also try bridging your pad, but then say goodbye to ever playing DDRMAX on PS2 with that pad. frown.gif
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69. PostPosted: Sun Aug 04, 2002 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just ordered the cheap $4.95 parallel port adapter from BuyNShop.com and I just wanted to make sure that they WILL work for DWI/Stepmania. I know I saw it on Junta's website..but is there anyone else here that can confirm it? I guess if it doesn't...I could always use it to play Zsnes. riiight.gif

Thanks.
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I just ordered the cheap $4.95 parallel port adapter from BuyNShop.com and I just wanted to make sure that they WILL work for DWI/Stepmania. I know I saw it on Junta's website..but is there anyone else here that can confirm it? I guess if it doesn't...I could always use it to play Zsnes. riiight.gif

Thanks.

They should work, because most USB adapters have DirectX, which sometimes won't allow them to have simultaneous button presses. Parallel adapters are your safest bet; they should be guaranteed to work. You can even make your own adapters! E1.gif
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i can conferm that the Parallel adapter i posted works with 2 players there if your computer suports multi paralel. i dont know if a multi tap works because i dont have one. but the software lets you remap the buttons so it works killer with DWI. i just wish my pad was a little more responsive(on the PSX and THE PC it somtimes miss fires or doesent register foot steeps) i have a soft pad by N(lightning logo thing)KI.
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No Name Trowa Barton wrote:
i can conferm that the Parallel adapter i posted works with 2 players there if your computer suports multi paralel. i dont know if a multi tap works because i dont have one. but the software lets you remap the buttons so it works killer with DWI. i just wish my pad was a little more responsive(on the PSX and THE PC it somtimes miss fires or doesent register foot steeps) i have a soft pad by N(lightning logo thing)KI.

Cool! Thanks for the update! Oh, btw, that soft pad is "NAKI." E4.gif

WHOA!! nerd.gif Since when did we become a Sticky Topic?! That is truly great! Now everyone will know where to get working PSX-to-PC adapters without searching 100+ forums. Thanks, whoever made this Sticky! biggrin.gif

Check out DDRFreak member's list of working adapters, near my signature!
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73. PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2002 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yay this thread is sticky now!

yes, the parallel adapter is the most safe bet for anyone and everyone. although it's not as 'plug n play' ish as a usb adapter, and it has not been confirmed if u can play doubles if u only have one parallel port.

noname: do you have two parallel ports?
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Can anyone verify if the KikiJoy Converter works with DWI/Stepmania? Also, does anyone know if the converter requires extra drivers I should know about? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Can anyone verify if the KikiJoy Converter works with DWI/Stepmania? Also, does anyone know if the converter requires extra drivers I should know about? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.


i believe the kikijoy converter does not work, even with the new drivers.
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Okay, so far the best working adapters that we have that are confirmed to work properly with DWI/Stepmania are the BOOM adapter from http://www.lik-sang.com and the EMS USB2 adapter available from http://www.Levelsix.com
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77. PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2002 10:07 am    Post subject: Thanks Junter Reply with quote

Hey Junter... Thanks for the page about the psx to usb for pc... I'm going to look at the EMS and consider purchasing that one...
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78. PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2002 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good news. The PS Joy adaptor (the dark gray one with detacheable cable, sold at lik-sang and RedOctane) does work with Windows XP. I believe it should also work with Windows 2000, as the driver I've installed (that comes with the adaptor) is for Windows 2000.

I played DWI with it, and it works flawlessly. Haven't got a chance to play DDR/PC (the CD is at work); will keep you updated on that.

CoolCat RaGeR wrote:
Okay, so far the best working adapters that we have that are confirmed to work properly with DWI/Stepmania are the BOOM adapter from http://www.lik-sang.com and the EMS USB2 adapter available from http://www.Levelsix.com


lik-sang sells many different Boom adaptors (see my previous post on the page 2), and this PS Joy is the only Boom adaptor I've confirmed to work with Windows 2000/XP.

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I seem to have problems working with this experiment. I bought a mymybox pad and a KikiJoy PSX to USB converter and tried to play it with Stepmania. The weird thing was that when I turned on "Ignore Joy axis", none of the arrows would work when I tried to configure them; only the diagonal buttons would work. When I turned "Ignore Joy axis" off, only the left and right arrows work.

How do I go about solving this problem? Is the problem with the converter or is there something I missed?
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